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08-11-2007, 01:27 AM
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#201 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by thegamerslink
Well, as for the economy, I think it's pretty strong, even though due to my own restrictions I'm currently living at the poverty level(working on that). The democrats(liberals) are doing their best to ruin that as usual. They can't compete honestly and openly so they start the stories about how bad everything is and it's just going to be amazing if everyone sees it to next week. At the same time they are taking advantage of every nicety the economy has to offer them.....
As for nudity on television.......well, if I compare what I watch on primetime television now, with the Adam 12 and Gunsmoke episodes I watched as a child then I see we have come a very very long way. You see everything on the breast but the nipple, you can see an entire butt for a very very small amount of time, and if you put a g-string on a woman you can extend that time limit. If you are watching abc, nbc, cbs, cw etc you will see these things, I have Dishnetwork and have foxmoviechannel, ifc, etc as part of the standard package, it all shows uncut movies, bottom line if one doesn't want to see it they turn the channel, but, they are all marked and have a warning of content, what happened at the super bowl, though to me was no big deal, Others seem to think it was a stage publicity stunt that subjected alot of people that had the known what to expect before hand would have had the option of whether they watched or not instead of being forced to see it irregardless.
That last part isn't neccessarily my own oppinion but an opinnion based on doing something that a lot of people don't do any more it seems to me called looking at something through someone elses eyes
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What do you have against the female form, She was covered.
The whole thing just got stupid.
Cheers
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08-11-2007, 08:22 AM
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#202 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by KeithCash
What do you have against the female form
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Do you think that regular TV should broadcast pornography?
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08-11-2007, 08:09 PM
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#203 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John Scott
I think you need to choose your friends wiser. Sounds like you are hanging out with the scum of the earth.
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I have to agree with this. It sure doesn't sound like the norm anywhere I have lived.
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08-12-2007, 03:06 AM
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#204 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Scott
I think you need to choose your friends wiser. Sounds like you are hanging out with the scum of the earth.
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Where did he say that what he observed in America was his friends??
He said he observed this, does that automatically imply he chooses bad friends? I fail to see the logic there.
I see a lot of things in the society that I live in, that does not at all make every subject of my observations a friend and assuming this based on nothing but his statement isn't really fair in my opinion. You could at least have asked him if it were his friends that he observed this behaviour from, before making the assumption that he "hangs out with the scum of the earth".

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08-13-2007, 08:42 AM
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#205 (permalink)
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To live in America is interesting
To generalize is difficult, too many opposite people.
Nice in one side, awful in the other..
But interesting to live there at least some time...
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08-14-2007, 10:26 AM
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#206 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Scott
Do you think that regular TV should broadcast pornography?
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No it should stay with HBO types.
But nude glimpse of someone is not porn.
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08-14-2007, 02:53 PM
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#207 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithCash
No it should stay with HBO types.
But nude glimpse of someone is not porn.
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Nudity is allowed, pornography isn't.
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08-14-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
Where did he say that what he observed in America was his friends??
He said he observed this, does that automatically imply he chooses bad friends? I fail to see the logic there.
I see a lot of things in the society that I live in, that does not at all make every subject of my observations a friend and assuming this based on nothing but his statement isn't really fair in my opinion. You could at least have asked him if it were his friends that he observed this behaviour from, before making the assumption that he "hangs out with the scum of the earth".

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Why does he associate with them and know them with the intimacy required to judge their characters if he isn't friends with them?
Yeah, it's a reasonable conclusion, to assume that if he is intimate with those people that he is friendly with them.
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08-14-2007, 03:36 PM
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You can see a lot without being associated or friends with people John. If you are a regular in a local bar you can get to know people quite well without associating or being friends with them, for instance.
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08-14-2007, 03:39 PM
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Ferre, it seems you are willing to jump on ANYTHING that shows a negative light on America. Believe me, the behavior he mentioned from his friends or otherwise is not typical behavior for America as a whole.
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08-14-2007, 03:39 PM
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#211 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferre
You can see a lot without being associated or friends with people John. If you are a regular in a local bar you can get to know people quite well without associating or being friends with them, for instance.
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Well, still, I you are choosing to associate with them, whether you call it friendship or not.
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08-14-2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
Ferre, it seems you are willing to jump on ANYTHING that shows a negative light on America. Believe me, the behavior he mentioned from his friends or otherwise is not typical behavior for America as a whole.
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Don't try "reason" or "logic" with Ferre. His currency is emotion.
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08-14-2007, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by John Scott
Don't try "reason" or "logic" with Ferre. His currency is emotion.
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I'm a woman, remember? i have no reason or logic - only emotion.
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08-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
Ferre, it seems you are willing to jump on ANYTHING that shows a negative light on America. Believe me, the behavior he mentioned from his friends or otherwise is not typical behavior for America as a whole.
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I fail to see how you find the connection between my reply to John in which I mentioned that I couldn't make the same conclusion about a member's affiliation with people, and America.
Looks like you are jumping on anything I say.

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08-14-2007, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferre
I fail to see how you find the connection between my reply to John in which I mentioned that I couldn't make the same conclusion about a member's affiliation with people, and America.
Looks like you are jumping on anything I say.

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It's quite obvious. You are posting in support of somebody else's anti-American comment. If you're going to fight other people's battles, simple because they expressed an anti-American sentiment, then yes, it's obvious you are a fundamentalist.
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08-14-2007, 04:22 PM
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ok all you americans - LET'S GO HAVE AN ORGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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08-14-2007, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Scott
It's quite obvious. You are posting in support of somebody else's anti-American comment. If you're going to fight other people's battles, simple because they expressed an anti-American sentiment, then yes, it's obvious you are a fundamentalist.
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Now I'm a fundamentalist? Dude, stay off the crack, it's defecting your brains in a not so nice manner. Seriously.
And I didn't defend his opinion, I wouldn't care less, I just found your assumption a bit over the top about that guy's friends being the scum of the earth only because he said he "sees things".
Had nothing to do with what he has "seen". Maybe he is a barman, what do you know?
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08-14-2007, 04:49 PM
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Had nothing to do with what he has "seen". Maybe he is a barman, what do you know?
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Still it's his choice to associate with those people. Stated twice now and evidently you cannot respond to this point?
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08-14-2007, 04:59 PM
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Knowing people doesn't make them automatically friends John. I used to own businesses and associated with many people, some of them not-so-nice people but that doesn't make them friends at all. I used to do business with a guy who, apart from other businesses, owned a swingers club, that dude was not a friend of me at all, in fact I found him a bit sleazy but if you only do business with friends you have little on your plate, I assure you.
To draw the conclusion that someone's friends are the scum of the earth only because that person states that he knows people who are not-so-nice is a bit far fetched in my view, that's all.
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08-14-2007, 05:03 PM
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#220 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ferre
Knowing people doesn't make them automatically friends John. I used to own businesses and associated with many people, some of them not-so-nice people but that doesn't make them friends at all. I used to do business with a guy who, apart from other businesses, owned a swingers club, that dude was not a friend of me at all, in fact I found him a bit sleazy but if you only do business with friends you have little on your plate, I assure you.
To draw the conclusion that someone's friends are the scum of the earth only because that person states that he knows people who are not-so-nice is a bit far fetched in my view, that's all.
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For the fourth or fifth time now:
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Originally Posted by John Scott
Still it's his choice to associate with those people.
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And it's your choice to associate with swinger club owners.
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