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07-08-2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rududu2
maybe you are the most funny clown in UK?
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Booo!
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07-08-2007, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rududu2
Muahaha, i am banned boy? maybe you are the most funny clown in UK?
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So this is the best reply you had? Man, Hitler would be ashamed of you. You appear to heed the teachings of Krusty Clown more than anything. Mein Kampf would be a good start for you if you want to worship a dead guy. Take that at your own peril though. I've heard it has big words.
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07-08-2007, 10:34 PM
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 Nice, Brian!
*awaiting the arrival of Rududu3*
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07-09-2007, 01:04 AM
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being not american, there are so many things i just do not understand in america. i have been countless times over there, on the job or private, but there are still so many things, i just do not get.
there is so many things i really, really like in america and in americans and then there is some things, where i just think: what the F***!
it would take waaaay too long, to list everything up here and to get into every detail, so let me just say in general:
considering all positive and negative things, the history, science and so on ....without america as it was so far, the world would be a worse place to live on!
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07-09-2007, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ewomack
We need to quiet the extremists and get back to the center somehow. I hope we can.
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I agree with much of what Ed posted.
And I think some middle ground in US politics would do you guys a world of good.
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07-09-2007, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cabdirazzaq
As professor Noam Chomsky always remind us, the US is the biggest terror state out there.
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To whom do we terrorize??
Cheers
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07-09-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
"America" is situated at one of the most beautiful continents on earth, as a country it is a beautiful place, but socially it's totally messed up, and politically it's even more messed up to a point that you really have to be American to find any logic or rational thought in their social/political system.
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There is no logic to politics in America, the elected officials do not want to do what is needed for our nation, it just seems like a bunch of kids playing king of the mountain. They do not know how to make the decisions that they are elected to do, sometimes you have do it no matter if it hurts you as well, you do for the good of the country, you cannot worry what it affects. Do the right thing.
I believe this is called leadership. Very lacking in Washington.
Cheers
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07-09-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithCash
To whom do we terrorize??
Cheers
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Pretty much everyone... Why do you think the vast majority of the world hates you? Europe, Latin America, central America, eastern & western Asia and most certainly the middle east (apart from the Zionists of course...)
Ron Paul is among the few American politicians who understand, they don't hate you because of your (so called) freedom, "they" hate you because the U.S is the #1 Terror state in the world. An obvious fact to most humans above the age of 15, who are mentally stable and who do not watch Fox news...
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07-09-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cabdirazzaq
Pretty much everyone... Why do you think the vast majority of the world hates you? Europe, Latin America, central America, eastern & western Asia and most certainly the middle east (apart from the Zionists of course...)
Ron Paul is among the few American politicians who understand, they don't hate you because of your (so called) freedom, "they" hate you because the U.S is the #1 Terror state in the world. An obvious fact to most humans above the age of 15, who are mentally stable and who do not watch Fox news...
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Im an american, and i believe the reasons why every country hates us is $, and power. Its no big secret. As far as being the #1 terror country if we didnt have to spend so many tax dollars bailing out other countries out we would own the world and this way we would all be free. I ghess thats why we vote for presidents, congress, dept of defence and so on.  
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07-09-2007, 02:42 PM
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I hate America just as much as I hate every other country.
In turn, I love America just as much as I love every other country.
If I had my wish, there would be no countries.
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07-09-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian
I hate America just as much as I hate every other country.
In turn, I love America just as much as I love every other country.
If I had my wish, there would be no countries.
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I dont get it do you want me to build you a big boat?  I understand 
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07-09-2007, 02:51 PM
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Moreso I want you less delusional, but if you want to play Noah's Ark on me, I think Steven " Evan" Carrel beat you to the punch.
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07-09-2007, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian
Moreso I want you less delusional, but if you want to play Noah's Ark on me, I think Steven " Evan" Carrel beat you to the punch.
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Brian i just didnt understand where you want to live?
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07-09-2007, 02:54 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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In your big boat.
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07-09-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian
In your big boat.
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Well i quess rankland has a big job ahead of him.
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07-09-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cabdirazzaq
Pretty much everyone... Why do you think the vast majority of the world hates you? Europe, Latin America, central America, eastern & western Asia and most certainly the middle east (apart from the Zionists of course...)
Ron Paul is among the few American politicians who understand, they don't hate you because of your (so called) freedom, "they" hate you because the U.S is the #1 Terror state in the world. An obvious fact to most humans above the age of 15, who are mentally stable and who do not watch Fox news...
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They may choose to hate our government, but if they hate us as individuals simply because we were born in the United States, I am not sure they are someone I would want to know anyway.
P.S. (To the person starting this thread) America includes a whole lot more than the United States. 
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Last edited by Cricket; 07-09-2007 at 03:53 PM..
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07-09-2007, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cricket
They may choose to hate our government, but if they hate us as individuals simply because we were born in the United States, I am not sure they are someone I would want to know anyway.
P.S. (To the person starting this thread) America includes a whole lot more than the United States. 
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I was referring to the U.S as a nation of course, I have nothing against Americans as a people. That would be racist, even your worst enemies (Bin laden and those who support him) don't hate America because of the people who live there.
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07-09-2007, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cabdirazzaq
Why do you think the vast majority of the world hates you?
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I was just double checking because of the above response. 
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07-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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I have to respond...
I'm proud to be an American although there are many things that I'm anything but proud of.
My ramblings about some issues...
Entertainment:
We've become more the "United States of Entertainment" then the USA. TOO much attention, adoration, and money being directed at inconsequential crap called entertainment (hollywood, sports, news-ambulance chasing, etc...).
Socialism:
Far right!? We're as close to communism as we've been since I was put on this earth. We have the government telling us we can't smoke a plant, can't drink a beer until we're 21 (several years after they'll let us join the armed services), and if we move towards National healthcare we're %#$@#$! because then the "moderates" will think they have the right to control what we eat, how much of we eat, where we can eat because our health affects everyone.
Ineffective government:
Open borders have led to a slew of problems at the local levels primarily crime related. If I were born south of our border I admint I'd have been running across the border a long time ago myself to try and make a better life for myself and family. Most of the folks who are here illegally are good people that only did what most of us wouldhave done ourselves. But, there are many illegals who should be rounded up and ____.
Uneducated:
Our public school system and it's students are way behind those in most of the advanced countries around the world. I've lived in Germany, travelled to many parts of the world (Korea, Ukraine, Italy, Mexico, Canada, etc...) and I'm always amazed at how serious other societies take their education compared to ours. Another instance of our government and the socialists within it sitting by and watching a cancer spread.
Untruthful about history:
Want to experience a great country? Go to Hawai'i. Not the U.S. state, but the real Hawai'i. That's right thre is no such thing any longer. The U.S. kidnapped their Queen and locked her up so the Navy could see to it that the U.S. could steal their country. We did and it's been one of the best kept secrets I'm aware of. What makes me the saddest about this travesty is that our government looks the other way as if it never happened. I'm still a proud American, but I sure would be upfront about our past mistakes and do everything possible to make things right. Did you know that native Hawaiians have the highest poverty rate, highest suicide rate, highest school dropout rate, etc... of ALL minorities in the U.S.? Didn't think so.
Now you have a glimpse into why I call myself "mauiman". After spending years on Maui with Hawaiians I've gained a rare perspective of Hawai'i and it's people.
I'll close by reiterating that I love my country. I love the United States and would die defending it. I think we're as good a country as any other, although I disagree we're the "best".
Aloha
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07-09-2007, 04:56 PM
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#40 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Cricket
I was just double checking because of the above response. 
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You as a nation ^^ not a people. Lets rewind the tape and everything falls into place:
Me: As professor Noam Chomsky always remind us, the US (not Americans) is the biggest terror state out there.
KeithCash: To whom do we terrorize??
Me: Pretty much everyone... Why do you think the vast majority of the world hates you?
In this context, it's pretty clear I have nothing against Americans, but a lot of of hate towards your government and policies.
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