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07-10-2007, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrissyC
Who says that "our" twin towers and "our" planes where even hijacked by them? Because "our" goverment says so? Are we there to "really" fix the problem? I think us being there has only made things worse. Our goverment needs to mind their own business take care of their own and stop spending so much time with other countries. Maybe if our goverment minded their own business to begin with 911 would never of happened.
I was talking about the post after mine who said
Those men died "believing" they gave their lives for our freedom! But as I said in my first post
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Thats abunch of cr.p they no what planes from what time to what airport, and the name of each person that high jacked each plane. You need to get your story streight and stop making up things to make it look like you know what your talking about. 
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07-10-2007, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rankland
Thats abunch of cr.p they no what planes from what time to what airport, and the name of each person that high jacked each plane. You need to get your story streight and stop making up things to make it look like you know what your talking about. 
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I did not say they did not know what planes or the name of who high jacked each plane. But just because our media says one thing or our goverment tells us somthing does not mean its true. Our goverment tells us what they want us to know! Does not mean they are telling us the whole truth.
Do you think our goverment did not know about the plans for 911 years before it happened?
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07-10-2007, 11:28 PM
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07-10-2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrissyC
I did not say they did not know what planes or the name of who high jacked each plane. But just because our media says one thing or our goverment tells us somthing does not mean its true. Our goverment tells us what they want us to know! Does not mean they are telling us the whole truth.
Do you think our goverment did not know about the plans for 911 years before it happened?
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Everybody knows the gov lies, but theres nothing noboddy can do about this, but concidering my kids, and there kids dn the road as far as living in a safe country one day you might be happy we are in iraq. Dying is inevidable, but dying for a good cause for our future is a great feeling. If they would let me id be in iraq rt. now, and many of my family died for this country to protect what they loved (USA). I grew up in a military family my dad gary arnold jones was in the special forces in viet nam all my brothers joined the army except me, because as a kid i was a severe epileptic. My dad died with cancer from the asian orange shortly after the viet nam war. My brother got shot and killed in the desert storm, and i can asure you he would do it again for his country.The rest of my family was safe, and very highly successful in taking out the enomy when need be. Trust me out of seven brothers there was thousands hurt or killed for protecting our country. 
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07-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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We have all lost loved ones in wars. Don't you think they should of been paid more? They don't pay our military enough. While my husband was also in desert storm. While he was out risking his life his two children and I lived on only 350. a week. Fine way to pay those who gave their life for us.
viet nam was a bad one and how sad when our men came home so many where looked down on  many of them lost their jobs. Those men should of been warshipped they all where heros!
I strongly feel our military should get more and they should be respected more.
As for 911 I believe our goverment knew about it before it happened, they could of stopped it but did not. This war should end bring our men and women back home! This is not helping the furture of our children its making things worse for them can't you see that? War is not the answer!
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07-11-2007, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrissyC
We have all lost loved ones in wars. Don't you think they should of been paid more? They don't pay our military enough. While my husband was also in desert storm. While he was out risking his life his two children and I lived on only 350. a week. Fine way to pay those who gave their life for us.
viet nam was a bad one and how sad when our men came home so many where looked down on  many of them lost their jobs. Those men should of been warshipped they all where heros!
I strongly feel our military should get more and they should be respected more.
As for 911 I believe our goverment knew about it before it happened, they could of stopped it but did not. This war should end bring our men and women back home! This is not helping the furture of our children its making things worse for them can't you see that? War is not the answer!
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We all know the fbi, cia, and so on dropped the ball matter fact it was all over the news. I understand how much money we are spending there to, but i believe that we should have had an actual war lost 1/2 the people went in took care of our business with responcible parties, and left, but just like viet nam we are policing/babysitting thats crap. 
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07-11-2007, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cabdirazzaq
John, would you please share what you think I said which disregarded well known facts? To be just I should make the following corrections : "supporting hundreds of dictators" should be "dozens", I can't really confirm hundreds. And also, "Never cares about U.N resolutions" is hard to prove or disapprove so I do take that back. How can anyone really tell if the U.S cares or don't care, right?
Having that said, do you agree to the other facts I mentioned John. btw, I would be very pleased if you could walk me through them, one by one ; )
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Most of what you posted is really nothing more than bull****. For example:
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The only nation that have used a nuclear bomb on civilians, twice!"
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Did we use the atomic bomb? Yes. Were we justified? Yes. The use of the atomic bomb probably saved Japanese lives, as well as American.
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Originally Posted by cabdirazzaq
if you want to stop Terror its easy:
Just stop terrorizing other people and I promise you, you will have no reason to fear terrorism.
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This is where you prove yourself to be soft-witted. Muslim terrorists have attacked and raped 14 year old girls for wearing revealing clothes. They have killed female university students in the US for wearing revealing mini skirts. They have killed teenage boys for being homosexual. They attack and kill civilian women and children in the US, and attempt to justify it by pointing to the US support for Israel, when the Muslims plot genocide against the Jews.
Muslims are terrorists. They terrorize their own populations. They murder and terrorize in Indonesia. They murder and terrorize their own countrymen in Iraq.
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Just stop terrorizing other people and I promise you, you will have no reason to fear terrorism.
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That is such bull****. Were those 14 year girls in skirts "terrorizing" others? Muslim is sick, sick religion.
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07-11-2007, 02:31 AM
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It is not good to point the finger at the whole Muslim community, however when some young Muslim youths gang raped a Sydney girl for 8 hours the Musilm communities reponse was that it was deserved and just because the girls in Australia look like a piece of meat waiting to be eaten by dogs. When Muslim communities start to stand up to their own people and condemn this behaviour then I will stop generalising. If they don't like our way of life they should head back to their own war torn hell pits.
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07-11-2007, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrissyC
Who says that "our" twin towers and "our" planes where even hijacked by them? Because "our" goverment says so?
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LOL. Al-Qaeda conducts terrorist attacks in Sudan, Iraq, Indonesia, Pakistan, The UK, Spain, etc, etc, and claims responsibility for the 9-11 attacks, and you want to blame it on the gov't. A bit past silly, eh?
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Utter nonsense that has long since been discarded by intelligent folks.
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Originally Posted by ChrissyC
I agree, the best way to stop terrorism is for all of the countries to mind their own business. Let each country do as they want with their own land.
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Didn't really think that through, did ya? If that were policy, then it would be ok for any country to gas certain parts of their population. Yeah, not too well thought out.
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07-11-2007, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rankland
Thats abunch of cr.p they no what planes from what time to what airport, and the name of each person that high jacked each plane. You need to get your story streight and stop making up things to make it look like you know what your talking about. 
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So which Iraqis was it who flew into the Twin Towers again?
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07-11-2007, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rankenstein
So which Iraqis was it who flew into the Twin Towers again?
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Where did he say that Iraqis did that? Japanese did not fly into the twin towers and we still went to war against them. Is flying into the twin towers required for war now?
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07-11-2007, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rankland
Great idea while they hijack planes to blow up my twin towers lets just let them think of something else to blow up...... 
Or do i go over there and fix the problem
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Over there, in the context of flying planes into the Twin Tower, is Saudi Arabia.
So when is the US going to roll into Saudi again?
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07-11-2007, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rankenstein
Over there, in the context of flying planes into the Twin Tower, is Saudi Arabia.
So when is the US going to roll into Saudi again?
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I think that was a Muslim terrorist reference, not a nationality one. Right now it seems we have a high concentration of terrorists (i.e., Muslims) in Iraq.
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07-11-2007, 07:15 AM
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...lol, and they're all knocking the crap out of each other, much more than they are 'our' troops. These guys, they bang on about 'brother muslims', and just look at them.
Actually, my girlfriend is half-Pakistani, so I've seen first hand how they treat their women like second-class citizens in situations like funerals etc. Non-muslims don't very often get to see how that stuff works, but I have. The women have to sit in a totally separate room, they don't get to eat until the men have finished eating, and even then they only get to eat what the men have left over. This is in Manchester, I could tell you some stuff, seriously. Completely backwards bunch of SOBs. I think it's 50-50 between their culture and their religion, to be honest.
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07-11-2007, 07:28 AM
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Question to John or Rank: How the hell can you even decipher the posts you are quoting and rebutting? I get a headache just trying to read them.
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07-11-2007, 07:38 AM
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It's just pure guesswork, until we settle on something to usefully nitpick....
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07-11-2007, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rankenstein
they don't get to eat until the men have finished eating, and even then they only get to eat what the men have left over.
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Run this by me again, where the problem here? ;-)
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07-11-2007, 08:29 AM
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Run this by me again, where the problem here? ;-)
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Well, you know, I want the washing up done as soon as I've finished eating, and scraps should go straight in the bin....
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07-11-2007, 08:54 AM
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lol! 
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07-11-2007, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rankenstein
Well, you know, I want the washing up done as soon as I've finished eating, and scraps should go straight in the bin....
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LOL 
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