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07-22-2007, 02:37 PM
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Well like I was saying, don't nitpick my posts either.... Yeah maybe the Iraqi's did technically "choose" their gov't, but that is a joke.
I do indeed know the facts, but I also know the REALITY, they didn't get to freely choose their gov't that is such a joke.
I never meant to imply that they were not in unrest before our invasion, we have just added to it is all, as well as the next how many years until some radical group takes control again, then there is just a different form of unrest again.
Obviously there were already problems there, but we certainly didn't HELP much, if anything at all.
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07-22-2007, 02:39 PM
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Yeah maybe the Iraqi's did technically "choose" their gov't, but that is a joke.
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Not a joke at all. Freedom to choose your own government is only a joke to an immature, spoiled brat who knows none of the sacrifices that it took to get that right.
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07-22-2007, 02:45 PM
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I am not calling the freedom to choose your own government a joke, I am calling the situation in Iraq in general, a joke.
I did not once insult you, this is the second occasion in a separate thread that you have attacked my personal intelligence. I consider myself FAR FROM a spoiled immature brat. I do understand growing up here I have indeed had it quite easy. That in itself doesn't kill my right to an opinion.
I will not be posting much more in these threads, simply because you are obviously the immature one in wanting to just insult me on a personal level.
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07-22-2007, 02:49 PM
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I will not be posting much more in these threads
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Thank you.
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07-23-2007, 05:14 AM
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The word "War" should have been obsolete by now. It is very sad to see that America/UK rejuvenates it time and again. War causes economic recession in America and Jobs are lost to other countries. Each time America conducts a war, countries like India, China, Phillipines win.
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07-23-2007, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by viswablr
The word "War" should have been obsolete by now. It is very sad to see that America/UK rejuvenates it time and again. War causes economic recession in America and Jobs are lost to other countries. Each time America conducts a war, countries like India, China, Phillipines win.
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Not at all true. War generally creates jobs and rejuvenates economies (at least, of the countries producing the arms).
And the idea of war being obsolete... that is just silly. As long as their are idiot Muslim extremists around, there will be war. Look at their history. They can't even be at peace amongst themselves.
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07-23-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by viswablr
The word "War" should have been obsolete by now. It is very sad to see that America/UK rejuvenates it time and again. War causes economic recession in America and Jobs are lost to other countries. Each time America conducts a war, countries like India, China, Phillipines win.
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How does China win, are they not the country that KILLS  it own people for speaking their minds
Lets never forget Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 some are saying over 200+ died.  So tell How does China win? 
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07-23-2007, 11:05 AM
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How does China win, are they not the country that KILLS  it own people for speaking their minds
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Actually, you may find that China does punish people for speaking their minds.
You go to China, go into a bar and start stating your views on how crap the current political system is and talk about it so that a lot of people overhear and then just wait to see what happens.
If you're lucky, you may be arrested.
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07-23-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by G10
Actually, you may find that China does punish people for speaking their minds.
You go to China, go into a bar and start stating your views on how crap the current political system is and talk about it so that a lot of people overhear and then just wait to see what happens.
If you're lucky, you may be arrested.
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G10 You are right,
are they not, means "they do kill" we have fun with the wording of american English. 
I was asking HOW CHINA was WINNING when kill their own people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananm...otests_of_1989
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Reason: left off link
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07-25-2007, 12:30 AM
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It is their internal problem .... They win economically ... You pick 1000 items in any shop. There is a "Made in China" label on at least 990 items. This is going to be a problem to America in long term.
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07-25-2007, 01:02 AM
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America faces a "trade deficit" for the past few years. Value of dollar is depreciating worldwide against all the other currencies. There was a time other countries invested in dollars. Now they are moving towards Euro. Let me humbly indicate that I an a MBA Finance graduate. So I can understand macroeconomics (to some extend).
-> When other countries were interested in dollars, what America had to just worry was to add more currency printing presses, so that there would be enough supply of dollars worldwide. US printed something on paper(currency), and other countries were mad about accepting the paper and give everything possible on earth back to America. Undeniably, America's contribution to the science and technology is tremendous, but it was the world's craziness about the dollar that made America a rich country.
-> Now dollar value is coming down and countries are moving towards Euro. America simultaneously goes mad towards imports. So decide for yourself how this is going to affect you (and me) in the long term.
-> If America has to retain its position, it should concentrate more on innovations, industries, minimizing imports, minimizing fuel usage, cutting down illegal immigration, yet welcoming talent from worldwide.
-> Wars? Sorry to say it is not going to help (Who cares if Ammunition industry does well during wars? It is not going to help me/you.). It will only bring more enemies to the USA. When enemies live across the shore, you can bomb. If enemies live next door, you can't.
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07-26-2007, 01:26 AM
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Value of dollar is depreciating worldwide against all the other currencies.
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Not true at all. The dollar is up from 115 JPY a year ago to 122 these days.
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07-26-2007, 01:30 AM
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Undeniably, America's contribution to the science and technology is tremendous, but it was the world's craziness about the dollar that made America a rich country.
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Also not true. Mere trading in dollars does not put money into the US economy. America's economy was built on money coming into our economy, via big brands like Boeing, Ford, GM and scientific machinery and technology, and of course the biggest export: Higher Education.
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07-26-2007, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by John Scott
Also not true. Mere trading in dollars does not put money into the US economy. America's economy was built on money coming into our economy, via big brands like Boeing, Ford, GM and scientific machinery and technology, and of course the biggest export: Higher Education.
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Undeniable ... I salute these companies ... they not only do business but also revolutionize USA/world ...
If the whole world trust a currency, according to currency theorem, the country printing the currency will be richer than what the actual net worth of the country is.
Let us say, for some reason, internet community decides that every internet transaction worldwide should henceforth happen through "v7n" only (  ), you will be the billionaire no.1. Because, there will be millions of way for you to generate revenue. You only need to worry whether you have sufficient bandwidth to support the traffic.
The same applies to currency also. When a currency is trusted worldwide, the owner country of the currency gets millions of ways to generate revenue. It only needs to worry about the bandwidth (i.e. ability to supply enough papers. Well, technically, it is not as easy as just supplying papers. Other factors do exist. But, they can be ignored without affecting the main context.).
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07-26-2007, 05:38 AM
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If the whole world trust a currency, according to currency theorem, the country printing the currency will be richer than what the actual net worth of the country is.
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Just on paper. That money doesn't end up on the consumer's pockets.
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07-26-2007, 07:01 AM
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America IMO is such a YHDG country nothing else but a HJGB get it?
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07-26-2007, 08:03 AM
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America IMO is such a YHDG country nothing else but a HJGB get it?
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I don't understand the abbreviations YHDG/HJGB...
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07-26-2007, 08:07 AM
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Not true at all. The dollar is up from 115 JPY a year ago to 122 these days.
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Japan economy is stagnating. Some economists even go to the extend of calling it "near collapsing".
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07-26-2007, 08:08 AM
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America IMO is such a YHDG country nothing else but a HJGB get it?
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YHDG? HJGB?
wtf! 
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07-26-2007, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by viswablr
Japan economy is stagnating. Some economists even go to the extend of calling it "near collapsing".
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That certainly explains why the JPY is doing even worse than the USD.
The Euro has done better against the USD.
Even our Canadian dollar is enjoying 30 year highs against the USD.
...and I'm with you guys on the YHDG/HJGB. HUH? 
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