Bush and the CIA or Al Qaeda

[John Scott]

"evidence" that these conspiracy theorists throw out there.

Would you really call it evidence? Does it warrant a response? I mean, most of it is just crap. Like the idea that cell phone calls cannot be made from a jetliner because they are moving too fast, or traveling too high.

Or the silly rumors that Barbara Olson was arrested on the "Polish-Austrian border" (those two countries do not share a border), thereby "proving" that the alleged hijackings never happened.

DO this questions merit a response? They are silly. The intellectual capacity of somebody who would treat these questions as valid, is not worth taking the time to respond to, IMO.

[The American Voters]

No I wouldn't call it evidence, thus why I put it in quotes... quote unquote evidence so to speak.

You're right most of them don't warrant a response. Some of them do deserve a response IMO.

[Ferre]

Indeed, there are a lot of bullcrap stories around concerning that event, like john mentioned, however, there are also a couple of stories around which are not such bull****, that's why I think there should be a new investigation.

An investigation can either shut all those "conspiracy theorists" up forever,...or it could reveil some more people who have been in on the plot. Either way, it would be good for the country, it would show al those sceptics that one of the world's most important events in history has not been covered up with he exact bullcrap we are witnessing the past years.

[jg_v7n]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Intentionally murdering thousands of innocent people or liberating a nation from a bloodthirsty dictator.... Hmm. Hard decision.

Well John if you use the language of politics then you can turn anything into an easy decision.

No one in the entire world would have a hard decision answering the question; "Which is worse: Intentionally murdering thousands of innocent people or liberating a nation from a bloodthirsty dictator"?

But lets be honest - thats not the question is it?

[John Scott]

But lets be honest - thats not the question is it?

No, that is the question. You can attempt to spin it into some evil conspiracy, but that's just spin.

[astrovineet]

I think its 'other' since I feel Bush wont try to get its own fellow citizens die for any reason.

Al Qaeda cant be too much violent.

Well until we confirm anything.. I think its too early to come to any conclusion.

'who ever' does it, does a Big Harm to the human kind.

I wish all should be just friends, no bad feelings.. no bad intentions ever...

Viineet Jain

[John Scott]

Al Qaeda cant be too much violent.

The fact that Al Qaeda claims responsibility has no affect whatsoever on your perception of Al Qaeda?

[jg_v7n]

Originally Posted by John Scott

No, that is the question. You can attempt to spin it into some evil conspiracy, but that's just spin.

That would be spin yes. But I'm not talking about a conspiracy I'm talking about the reallity. I'm talking about a war of false pretences, and mistakes; 200k + innocent dead, 4k dead troops, a destroyed country and shattered lives.

[John Scott]

200k + innocent dead

Where is this? I thought you were talking about Iraq, and then you come off with crazy figures like this, so obviously you weren't talking about Iraq.

a destroyed country and shattered lives.

Ever hear the phrase "live free or die"? It's an indicator of the value of freedom, and the entitlement to rights. Iraqis did not have that before, and now they do. Sure, there are some birth pains, and yes some Iraqis are still hooked on killing other Iraqis, but that's life, and it's part of the process.

In the end, if they get the support they need, it will be a democracy that will last for centuries, where people are free to live full lives as they choose without fear of being gassed or tortured by a dictator.

[ucwebhost]

We talk about who engineered the 911 attack and the "reasons" behind the attack. The reality is it happened, thousands lost their life on the soil of the USA. Thats the reality.

However, we can confirm that these "possessed" people of the Middle East live to kill the innocent; indiscriminately. The only thing they know, teach and live is death.

Someone asked about the innocent military members that died; I can say as US Marine Veteran that served in Lebanon in 1983 and watched hundreds of my buddies die while sleep was, they died doingthe job that they were hired for. It is not acceptable butit is life. Much live a innocent law enforcement Office dyingin the line of duty. Tragic but real. My brother has recently returned from Iraq and the people are much free-er.

But for those anti-war; try something. Replace Iraq with Germany or Sudaam with Hitler. Was it worth it then? Is it worth it now?

My opinion is yes it is. I refuse to let those that wantto remove history - just so they can forget. It will be repeated.

[woosterbert]

They are the 'dark ones' they shot JFK and killed Princess Diana as well.

Seriously, I saw a video of the Pentagon plane crash and I must say that it didn't look like a plane crashing through the wall. As for conspiracy theories thats all they are until somebody comes up with irrefutable truth and there is a scarcity of that around Capitol Hill and Downing Street.

[SIM26]

For once I wish the so called "concerned citizens" of the world would do everyone else a favor and shut up!
Its bad enough that you come thru with proof of someones guilt. I mean NO ONE likes to look bad in the eyes of others. But to have some of these self placating egotists from other countries try and tell folks here at home what they should or should not do in regards to their government is simply idiotic.
Lets see, Brazil......Hmmm....large South American country that leads the rest of that continent in many ways. Rio de Janiero.......crime city of brazil...Tourist business is slacking off because the local population cant control itself.....And theres problems here that need to be addressed by the Brazilian population? clean out ya closet there soccer fans......your skeletons speak louder than your opinion of my country.

When will the people of the world get off their collective butts and start taking responsibility for THEIR actions? Why is it that so many of these so called intellectuals/concerned citizens see things as being the fault of the USA?

I'm sorry, did I offend someone? Remember that the next time you get ready to ask for another loan to prop up your government. How about when your neighborhood dictator decides to invade or shut off the oil supplied to your country. Gonna call on the US to once again bail you out? If a natural occurance causes disaster in your country, don't ask for aid...if you do it would surely make you a hypocrite.

Can you imagine NOT asking the people of the US to dip into their pockets to support some country they never have nor are likely to ever visit? They do it out of the good of their souls. They do so to help those in need. They try to help put lives back together. Ya know, more is spent giving the rest of the world a chance to bad mouth the US than the US spends on its own problems in country!

Isolationist? Yeah, after the past few years I could be labeled that way. Shut down the borders, send the illegals packing, make immigrants follow the procedures and laws as they are written. Shut off aid to all of the countries who are mooching off the US budget. I sorry, did that offend anyone? Lets look at all the loans that have NEVER been paid!

If all the world can do is sit back and contemplate what the US has done wrong, then I say lets close the grocery store......Let them all contemplate on empty stomachs. Somewhere along the line they will regret trying to tell the farmer how to plant the garden.............

[woosterbert]

If you noticed, I did include my own government, I would have gone through all the governments but I like to keep things brief.

PS any truth in the rumour that Donald Rumsfelt was behind Hurricane Katrina? I think he was also connected to getting aspartme into the diet. Well done Don.

[SIM26]

Rumsfelt might not have been behind Katrina, but it could be said that like any other politician he has the lungs to cause the wind!

Now the real question is whether Algore conspired to create the internet with the moneys gained, by Billary and company, when the Saving and Loan scandals broke loose.

[woosterbert]

I am afraid that now you know about the Al Gore connection, we shall have to kill you he he he.
Wouldn't it be delicious irony if the CO2 caused by Al flying round the world to tell people about CO2 was the extra needed to tip our planet over the edge?

[ucwebhost]

How true and scary!