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Old 03-31-2004, 02:39 PM
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Bush Puts a Cancer on the Presidency

An interesting article by Nixon White House staff member John Dean. All the died in the wool Republicans on the list won't like it. But you should all read it anyway.
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:43 PM
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hmm, yes cancer.. thats the word i would use to explain what Bush has done. not.
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:49 PM
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hmm, yes cancer.. thats the word i would use to explain what Bush has done. not.
I told you you wouldn't like it. But you have to wake up to reality sooner or later. Hopefully sooner. That entire administration has got to go!
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:50 PM
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And replace it with Democrats who love to give welfare checks to lazy ass crack addicts who refuse to work for a living?
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Old 03-31-2004, 03:01 PM
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More left-wing rhetoric. Yawn. I wouldn't expect anything less from the LA Times ... who are almost as liberal as the NY Times. The biasism is caking up on that article.
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I didn't see a single "fact" in that entire article. There was a lot of "here's our reaction to something they did" but no simple statements of fact. You can read the "looking under the desks" sketch a lot of ways. To me, it looked like, "Hey, I was wrong. And I'm big enough to admit it and even make fun of myself." To them, it's "he lied" but there's been no real proof or determination that anyone ever "lied".

And, I thought the article was about this book? If so, I'm certain that there is no way that this whole Richard Clarke thing is in the book - it happened to recently. So, they've told us he's accused of lying in this book, but they haven't told us even one lie the book accuses him of. (And the looking under the desk thing was only about 10 days ago, too, so that's not going to be in the book either).

Feelings are not facts, gang. They are emotions. Pure and simple.

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Old 03-31-2004, 03:54 PM
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Old 03-31-2004, 05:35 PM
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hmm.. yeah.. what war do we want?
Kerry vs Kerry or Bush vs Evil ?

Kerry changes his mind more than I am online. thats saying something.

Bush atleast gets a plan and goes for it.

How the hell can Kerry criticize the pres for not sending enough money to Iraq for the soldiers, when he himself voted against it?
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 05:56 PM
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spear, i challenge you to get out there and study the details of what exactly happens instead of taking Bill O'Riley and the rest of the Fox Right wing News team's idea.

You would be suprised how different the world is when you research and learn things on your own.

I probably will pick up Dean's book sometime soon. I plan on going to buy Clarke's book soon as well. Always interesting reads.
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 05:58 PM
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hmm.. i actually havent ever watched oreilly.. hannity though i listen to..

and as (a democrat) usually does.. you didnt answer my question:

How the hell can Kerry criticize the pres for not sending enough money to Iraq for the soldiers, when he himself voted against it?
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 06:02 PM
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I didn't see a single "fact" in that entire article.
I just recieved this from a friend in the USA. Grumpus, tell me there are no facts in this:

RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

LAW ENFORCEMENT
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975.

I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most housing foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to an administration than any President in U.S. history.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainee and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in wartime.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view. All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or minutes from meetings that I or my Vice-President attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
 
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Hmm.. I guess he should be sorry he is freeing millions of iraqis from their evil government... I guess the fact that an Iraqi family will live without fear that they will be put into torture chambers any minute is a bad thing?

and if you havent noticed yet...
UN is worthless. again.. the UN is worthless. I hope you realize that. UN is worthless. uhm, one more time: UN is worthless.
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 06:12 PM
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spear, i challenge you to get out there and study the details of what exactly happens instead of taking Bill O'Riley and the rest of the Fox Right wing News team's idea.
And it's my challenege to you to prove that fox-news is a right wing media source
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Old 03-31-2004, 06:14 PM
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Brian: you should get aim or irc again so we can discuss the democrats.. I would say the "idiocy" of the democrats. but then thatd be all wrong and ****, but its okay for them to call us idiots. hmm
 
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Old 03-31-2004, 06:16 PM
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I'm not going to diss the democrats. I have respect for some of them. I use to diss them up until a few weeks ago until I saw how stupid Kerry looked wihle he was dissing republicans ... it made me think.

Joseph Leiberman is awesome. Bill Clinton is pretty good. I just don't care for the liberal ideas and the liberal media ... makes me sick most of the time.
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Lieberman is from meh state...8-)
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yeah, same here. I hate people that say stuff about Bush and economy.. I mean, any president could have been in his shoes when we got attacked.. not his fault that national security is #1, then Joe Smith's job. if Clinton had done his job and killed Osama when we had the chance and not sell Al-Qaeda weapons, we would be fine.
 
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Unfortunately Kerry is from mine But so is Ted Kennedy I really need to move to North Dakota .. or some place, heh. No politics there.
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Yeah, Brian.
Bostson has to be the WORST place for politics of all sorts -- sports, government, and I'm sure anything else you could think of!
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Uh-huh. Everyday is full of emotions going 100mph. It's worse of you're a republican, too. When I go to college I plan on going to lancaster, PA ... so hopefully it will even out a bit more ... plus their baseball teams suck
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