Student tasered for asking Kerry about Skull & Bones

[schmeg007]

Tazer Remix: Can't Taze This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

[intruth]

I'll tell you what this koid is going to make a mill easy with the T-shirt slogan Don't Tase me Bro.. Also with all the talk show visits.

[backgammonnn123]

that student had guts to ask anyone about skull and bones. I know i wouldnt go anywhere near that question lol.

[thegamerslink]

He came very close multiple times to hitting the officers, even the female officer because he was trying so hard to make as big of a ruckus as he could make. Whether it was right or wrong for him to be asked to leave well that is up to the one that was hosting the answer and question session or the one that was taking the questions. As for the tasing as much of a fight as he put up to draw attention to himself it was a righteous taze, and remember, the officer that tazed him has him/herself been tazed before they were allowed to carry the tazer in the first place. Had he stopped resisting at any time he wouldn't have been tazed. Had he stopped and offered absolutely no resistence then that would be another issue.

People seem to forget that the officers risk being hurt by flayling arms, feet, kicks, whatever weopons might happen to be on a person unknowingly. If in a situation not necessarily this one but a situation where there is someone resisting and close enough to grab the tazer or the gun from an officer or reaching into his/her pocket, which would you rather have happen, officer pounce them with billy sticks and beat the hell out of them till they stop resisting, they pull out a gun and point it locked and loaded at them durring the heat of the moment that can cause an accidental shooting or give the resister the opportunity to take the firearm. Or a while briefly painful but long term wise unharmful jolt of electricity? It's like damned if they do damned if they don't....A cop gets shot at but gets sent to jail because he shot the victim back makes no sense to me at all, how can they keep us safe if they are afraid to do anything in order to do it?

It's almost as idiotic as when someone breaks into your house and either gets hurt breaking in, or you catch them and they get hurt getting away or you hurt them defending yourself and you get either arrested or sued by the idiot that broke in....AND THEY WIN!!

[Ferre]

The dude was already on the floor with four policemen on top of him, all he did was shouting, I think one needs to be a real coward to taser someone in that situation. It was nothing but abuse of power in my view.

[G10]

Originally Posted by schmeg007

Tazer Remix: Can't Taze This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

I want to know how they got MC Hammer to perform there at the same time.

It all boils down to freedom at the end of the day and freedom works both ways. The student was free to ask his questions and the officers were free to taze the little smart-arse! - (ok, I'll get serious)

I don't mean that he was a smart arse for his question, I mean that if he didn't make such a scene in front of everyone and tried to disrupt proceedings once asked, that wouldn't have happened.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

The dude was already on the floor with four policemen on top of him, all he did was shouting, I think one needs to be a real coward to taser someone in that situation. It was nothing but abuse of power in my view.

Resisting arrest is a serious offense, and leads to serious situations. He should have followed his legal obligation to do as he was ordered; instead he resisted, and the police officers chose to taser him instead of using physical force. Seems they went out of their way to be nice to somebody who brags about his ability to be a jackass.

Of course, he could have been trying to escape police custody and you would still be opposed to the police doing their job.

[Ferre]

They already used physical force, they had him on the floor with FOUR cops on top of him.

What did the cops do before they had tasers? Shoot him after he was tackled with four cops on top of him?

Four cops can't put handcuffs on a dude who is on the floor already? Down here two cops can pull that off without tasering people, in fact, tasers are forbidden down here due to the health risks (heart atacks, etc.)

[John Scott]

Four cops can't put handcuffs on a dude who is on the floor already?

Easier on everybody if he submits. Tasers get that submission. Would you prefer they forced the cuffs on him, even if they broke his arm or dislocated his shoulder doing it?

[Ferre]

Tasers don't really make it easyer, a body goes in shock and people loose the ability to control their movements for a while. The use of a taser in this case was pure power abuse in my view.

[backgammonnn123]

True, with a taser there isnt permanent damage.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by backgammonnn123

True, with a taser there isnt permanent damage.

No?

http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engamr511392004

Since 2001, more than 70 people are reported to have died in the USA and Canada after being struck by M26 or X26 tasers

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Tasers don't really make it easyer, a body goes in shock and people loose the ability to control their movements for a while. The use of a taser in this case was pure power abuse in my view.

LOL. Tasers don't make it easier? Tasers get people to cooperate. A cooperating suspect is generally easier to put handcuff on.

[Ferre]

True that, torture is known to make people more cooperative, you are right.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

True that, torture is known to make people more cooperative, you are right.

So how would Dutch police get the cuffs on a resisting offender?

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

So how would Dutch police get the cuffs on a resisting offender?

Like they have been doing for as long as they have handcuffs, they use their muscles, I've seen them arrest street dealers on numerous occasions and often those guys resist, but two cops just use their muscles. Looking at those fat American cops they might use some exercise to get in physical shape to do that, instead of sitting on a suspect with four (fat-assed) people and still needing to taser someone.

You don't see any fat cops in my town, they have physical conditions required for the job.

I tell you someting else, they don't even draw their guns.

[John Scott]

Like they have been doing for as long as they have handcuffs, they use their muscles

You know how painful that is to have your arms twisted and cuffed behind your back when you're resisting? That's pure torture. I am hysteric with anti-Dutch hysterical rage. That you could torture your criminals is extremely offensive to me.

*Going off to find tissue to wipe my eyes*

[stewart]

I see pigs needlessly tackle people to the ground all the time.... and then physically attack and abuse the person! Because of personal frustrations.

It's called police brutality and the abuse of an authoritative position! They do it all the time.

And yea this guy was obviously just a **** stirrer, but didn't deserve to be shocked imo. o_O

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

You know how painful that is to have your arms twisted and cuffed behind your back when you're resisting? That's pure torture. I am hysteric with anti-Dutch hysterical rage. That you could torture your criminals is extremely offensive to me.

*Going off to find tissue to wipe my eyes*

Yeah right, being tasered isn't painful. The screeming people do when tasered is out of joy.

And show me one example of someone who broke his arms while being handcuffed without a taser.

[kristeejo]

I actually agree with John. *gasp*

My daughter showed me this video because she was so disgusted that freedom of speech was squashed, but when I watched it - I felt he was out of control and in this day and age anything could happen. If he asked his question CALMLY, I would feel differently. It's almost like he wanted this to be a big story.