Iran War Declaration presented to senate?

[John Scott]

The war betweeen the west and the muslims.

That's a figment of your imagination. The West is not making war against the Muslims; it's making war against oppressive gov'ts that use Islam as a tool of oppression and murder.

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

The West is not making war against the Muslims

Do you think so.But i don't.Because the media of west is saying all muslims are terrorest..And more that the war is agianst terroresm.What does that means.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Because the media of west is saying all muslims are terrorest.

Not at all, and quite the opposite. Every single major news outlet reported that the vast majority of Muslims were outraged by the terrorist actions of a few Muslims.

You believe that the West is making war against all Muslims because (1) you are lead to believe that by your Muslim media, and (2) you would rather believe that America is evil, because as a Muslim if you accept that America and other non-Muslim countries liberated Afghanistan, while Muslim countries stood by and watched as the Teliban raped and murdered tens of thousands of Afghanis, it makes your people look like a bunch of cowards and connivers.

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Not at all, and quite the opposite. Every single major news outlet reported that the vast majority of Muslims were outraged by the terrorist actions of a few Muslims.

John you know very well what is the behaviour of the west with Muslims.Muslims are never engaged in terrorest activities.I know some of the people are using the name of Muslims and are in involved in terrorest activities.But people of west are considering all the muslims as terrorest.If you say i am wrong then what was registration of Muslims after the 9/11 attact.Why wsa the nationality of then 1300 muslims was canclled.

Originally Posted by John Scott

You believe that the West is making war against all Muslims because (1) you are lead to believe that by your Muslim media

NO i am never misguided by them.I know soem of the channels are misguiding people.But i don't consider them.They are just extremists.Nothing more.

Originally Posted by John Scott

(2) you would rather believe that America is evil

NO i don't i consider America as a very helpful country as they helped our govt in the earth quick of october 2005.And stil they are supporting our govt.BUt some of the extremists do this.And again i am not considering them.

Originally Posted by John Scott

because as a Muslim if you accept that America and other non-Muslim countries liberated Afghanistan, while Muslim countries stood by and watched as the Teliban raped and murdered tens of thousands of Afghanis, it makes your people look like a bunch of cowards and connivers.

As i have mentioned in my lot of posts that i have myself seen the suporting activities of US army in Afghanistan and they are really doing well.


Now let me John clear my poit of view.I say America is good but not in case of Israel and Iraq.And your own govt personalities has decliared that American army failed in Iraq mission.

[upsonians]

Joh do you have read this..

This is what your own army personals say.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Joh do you have read this..

This is what your own army personals say.

You find this as shocking? War is a nightmare - that is like saying water is wet. Yes, of course war is a nightmare, and I do not expect that to change any time soon.

You there think that war should be fun? Like sex or eating an ice cream cone?

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

You find this as shocking? War is a nightmare - that is like saying water is wet. Yes, of course war is a nightmare, and I do not expect that to change any time soon.

You there think that war should be fun? Like sex or eating an ice cream cone?

No i don' think that war should be a fun.I think Americans are not to fight a war in Iraq.They were there to bring democracy in Iraq.I don't where is that democracy.America it self got in trouble.And you what BBC reported for the same above link in urdu.They said American Army is in trouble nor they can move forward nor backward.
So do you think America will get success in Iraq.Doesn't seem so.
And hundreds of MUslims are dying each day in Iraq.Why?Can American govt answer for that.IS that a real democracy.