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Old 01-07-2008, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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On the issue of drugs, we have spent nearly five hundred billion dollars on the War on Drugs, since the 1970s. Total failure. Some day, we have to admit it. Today, we have the federal government going into states that have legal medical marijuana, arresting people--undermining state laws--arresting people who use marijuana when they're dying with cancer and AIDS, and it's done with, as a compassionate conservative. And it doesn't work.
The war on drugs has so many flaws. It somewhat proves how much power the evangelical vote carries. Any sane human would see it for what it is and end it.

As a person with family history of death by cancer, the methods on which a human aquires med weed should not be a traumatic event.
I don't agree with the inhaling of smoke but this is a much healthier alternative to phiser. As the side effects are natural.
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think Ron Paul has a great message and needs to be heard.

But what do you guys make of these Newsletters they are bringing up now?

I believe Paul that he didn't write them, but how can you be complicit in allowing this stuff to be published under your name for 20 years.

I think everyone has a little bit of prejudice in them, but to allow the stuff in those newsletters seems off in a way that I'm not totally comfortable with. I mean it was called the Ron Paul Newsletter and stuff like that, what is up with that? I'm scratching my head.

It won't stop me from voting for him, but it's weird.
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I believe Paul that he didn't write them, but how can you be complicit in allowing this stuff to be published under your name for 20 years.
It is simply a smear campaign with no substance. It's kinda like the Ron Paul blimp. He has nothing to do with it. What if they started putting banners up with racial slurs? He could ask them to stop but that is all he is going to do. He's not going to take them to court or anything else. He believes in an individuals right to do whatever they want as long as they aren't breaking any laws. And that, my new friends, is the reason I back him. Your rights, my rights, everyone's rights all the same.

The fact that you think he should have done more than just ask them to stop tells me that you've been under their control for a long time. Someone said something bad about me. Sue them! etc. etc. People have a right to do or say whatever they like and that's the way it should be (again). You're voting for him so it seems you see the majority of the light, and hopefully soon the whole light. Don't let the old media control your thoughts.
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... but how can you be complicit in allowing this stuff to be published under your name for 20 years.
The objectionable material only appeared in the newsletter for a 4 year period as far as I know. Still, I think it is obvious that Ron Paul had to know about it, and likely knew who wrote it and is protecting him/them. That raises some valid concerns IMO.

Still, he is the only candidate on the stage addressing the economic and civil rights insanity this country is facing.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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His cnn response to these 'newsletters' was very passionate and genuine in its delivery.
That is a trait I cannot find in any of the candidates on the dais at anytime.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well if someone printed something in a newsletter called The Ken Mendonca Times, I'd like to think I had a little more power over stopping it than just asking.

Again, I'm definitely for most of what Ron Paul is saying. However, I know many people who are a part of the "Republican Base" that everyone says Paul can never get votes from. They are a stubborn bunch and it's amazing how they'll throw all his good ideas because he's not "for the war".

He's got a long fight and until the media start giving him the repect he's earned then he won't have a chance of getting the nomination.

Like I said, he gets my vote and I know I've gotten at least 1 other person to vote for him, so we'll see. Keep getting the word out.
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the biggest difference between Ron Paul and the others is his voting record. Hes never flip flopped on an issue in his life plus his experience serving on the banking oversite committee gives him valuable insite on the federal reserve and why he wants to abolish it
and ultimitely give more fiscal power to the individual states.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's becoming harder to ignore the racism that Ron Paul had published. I'd like to take him at his word, but it's hard.

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I saw Ron Paul on Bill Moyers a week ago or so, he was thrown some rather tough questions, I thought he did well in answering them. He is a very intelligent man. However, he appears to be a lying coward from reading the article in John's post above. Very disheartening, these politicians. I actually liked the guy up until now.
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I'm thinking he'd buckle under the pressures of the global elite. Come to think of it, Obammy probably would too. Heck, I'd even put money on it.

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As for the rest of the clowns, they seem to already be in bed with them, so, I guess I won't be wondering about them then, will I.
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I get so excited around election time, I could puke.
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It's becoming harder to ignore the racism that Ron Paul had published. I'd like to take him at his word, but it's hard.

http://racerelations.about.com/b/200...l-a-racist.htm
Ron paul has laid this issue to rest a long time ago but it looks like there is a typical smear campaign going on even though there are many african americans supporting ron paul and even a rap song for him. the guy made a mistake and didnt edit a paper and the rest of the power structure is on him for that , plus how do u explain fox not inviting him to the previous debate? Opps , i guess No one is mentioning this?

“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person’s character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’

“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It’s once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”

Dr. Paul was also invited to respond to The New Republic article on CNN’s “The Situation Room” with Wolf Blitzer. Here are parts one and two of that some 11 minute segment:

You will note that in the above videos, Ron Paul again denies authorship of the articles in question and repudiates the content. Ron Paul also stated that no one can say they have ever heard that kind of language come from himself. Even Wolf Blitzer agreed that the statements in question do not sound like the Ron Paul he has come to know. Lastly, the author of The New Republic piece has reportedly stated, “Anyways, I don’t think Ron Paul is a homophobe; I’m just cynical and enjoy getting supporters of political candidates riled up. If you were a Giuliani guy I’d have called him a fascist. But I must say, the Ron Paul supporters are the most enthusiastic of the bunch!” In researching this post, I was not able to find one source which showed that Dr. Paul in fact wrote that material.

Additionally, as Dr. Paul stated, his rhetoric to date has been consistent and no where in that rhetoric have I heard, what I would term, a racist or homophobic or bigot remark. If anyone reading this has proof to the contrary, I will post it on Red Pills. But it needs to be more than innuendo.

I will be posting a more detailed look at this brouhaha in a later post this week-end but here are the bottom lines for myself:

1. Could Dr. Paul have been more circumspect in how his name was being used by his business partners and friends. Undeniably. But I am not voting for Jesus Christ or any mythically perfect individual. Ron Paul is not perfect nor does he claim to be. I can not expect perfection.

2. Ron Paul did not write the material in question nor has he verbalized that type of swill. He is not guilty until proven guilty, regardless of innuendo spread by those who obviously have their own agenda.


3. Ron Paul is the best candidate for President of the United States, bar none. His policies, if enacted, would go a long way toward making America whole again. I agree nearly 100 percent with what I have heard him say and more importantly, his voting record in Congress. No other candidate comes close to Ron Paul.


4. As Dr. Paul, a Republican with Libertarian principles, has stated, “it goes against our principles to be racist or homophobic.” That does not mean that those of another color cannot be criticized or disagreed with and we obviously can have have our own beliefs regarding how we want to live our lives. We believe others should be given the same right.

If anything, this conflagration has spurred me to greater involvement in Ron Paul’s campaign, monetarily (remember Martin Luther King, Jr’s day for the next Ron Paul Money Bomb campaign), physically by putting out signs and contacting people, and in spirit.

GO RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!

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... the guy made a mistake and didnt edit a paper ...
As judge Judy would say, "that's your problem!"
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The trick to dealing with the media is to say something to make them scratch their heads before typing…Ron needs a bit of help in this category...

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I do like Paul, but what the hell's that got to do with the price of tea in China, you don't think the guy is actually going to reform our political power structure, do you? That's what we need. A president willing to implement an acceptable checks and balance system, that we clearly do not have. And for accountability at the highest levels of government, something else that is clearly missing. In short, due to the enormous power of the global elite, we need a president willing to die for these changes. This is no joke. It all sickens me to no end, but that is the kind of president I think we need. Yeah good luck with that, Atom.
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It's like deja vu...all over again...
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3 cheers for smear tactics. Looks like somebody was afraid.
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