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ronpaul on roll for 2008

ronpaul on roll for 2008

check-out the money counter...

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Hes the man. I would love a president that would return us to the original constitution
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The Tea Party has raised $4.76 million so far today in online donations from over 44,000 individuals. This will set a new record for single day online campaign fundraising - breaking the one set last November 5th.
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The Tea Party is poised to break Hillary's unofficial single day total fundraising record. The number of people donating is skyrocketing right now as the clock nears midnight EST.

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That counter updating at 30 sec.
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Hey neighbor!

The number of people donating per hour is reaching 6,000 per hour now!

Hillary's unofficial record for total single day fundraising is now history!
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Seems that counter grows every 30 seconds witout fail!
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I hope he gets the nomination, but it seems that the America goes more by looks and sound bites.
They do not take time to learn. Very fickle.
I am sure there are folks who listen and understand the process, and I would assume they would back a man like RP.
But all in all, anything is better than what we have...
 
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I posted this reply on another forum, but am happy to repost it here:

<forum member>, it's cool with me if you want to ignore what is happening. I can assure you that the MSM is not reporting the whole story. You have it wrong though... It's the supporters of the status quo candidates that are largely apathetic. RP supporters are mobilizing. Here is just a sampling (there is more out there for those who care to look):

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The Austin meetup group, with 1,142 members, is the largest in the country. There's a much smaller University of Texas group, but the Austin organization is bigger than New York's, bigger than Chicago's, bigger than the meetup group for the entire state of Michigan.

Organizing the group was Davis' first political act, inside or outside of a voting booth, he said. The story of Davis' political awakening is told again and again in the Paul campaign, in the stories of people who had dropped out of or had never been part of the political process.
The Austin American-Statesman

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... This year Republicans can’t coalesce on a favorite candidate, Dow said, and Paul isn’t even close to the top of the list.

“It’s wide open,” Dow said, which is what could give Paul more local delegates. “There hasn’t been anything like this since 1964.”

That was when a divided Republican Party selected Barry Goldwater to run against incumbent Democrat Lynden Johnson, who smashed Goldwater in the race.

The influx of Paul supporters is being seen by every county GOP group, Dow said, after a recent statewide event he attended.

County GOP Central Committeeman John Robinson is even more concerned about local Paul supporters and Paul’s candidacy.

...

Robinson said he has no problem with grassroots campaigns, but for him Paul does not represent Republican values. And in many years, he said, not many Republicans come to the local caucuses, which means Paul supporters might be able to take over and send more delegates in favor of Paul to the state convention.
Paulites taking over the GOP?

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In a poll conducted Monday, Dec. 10, Channel 2 News asked which GOP presidential candidate Alaskan Republicans plan to support in the Super Tuesday caucus.

A slim majority of respondents support Ron Paul, a Texas congressman known for wanting to abolish the IRS and opposing the Iraq War.
Alaskans may nominate fringe candidate

On the results of the Tea Party:
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Jesse Benton
December 17, 2007 703-248-9115

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Congressman Ron Paul’s presidential campaign had a record fundraising day yesterday.

In a 24-hour period on December 16, the campaign raised $66 million dollars, surpassing the one-day record of $5.7 million held by John Kerry.

During the day, over 58,000 people contributed to Dr. Paul’s campaign, including 24,940 first-time donors. Over 118,000 Americans have donated to the campaign in the fourth quarter.

The $6 million one-day total means the campaign has raised over $18 million this quarter, far exceeding its goal of $12 million.

“We have the right message: freedom, peace and prosperity,” said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. “We also have the right candidate: Dr. Ron Paul.”

Congressman Paul will be campaigning in Iowa today hold including a press conference at 12:45 pm at the Des Moines Marriott in the Des Moines Room.

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The 50 state strategy mentioned previously seems quite plausible (this article was printed before the Tea Party):
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... But Charles Black, a consultant to Sen. John McCain's campaign, conceded that the Arizona GOP senator's fundraising has not been keeping pace with Paul's this quarter. Black said many of the more prominent candidates raised much of their money earlier in the year and their major contributors have already donated the maximum allowed by law.

...

The outpouring of financial support has allowed Paul to build up his campaign operation, which now has 100 staffers and is airing radio and television spots and sending mailers in the early primary states.

The cash cushion will also allow Paul to keep his campaign alive after the early January contests in New Hampshire and Iowa, Benton said. The campaign is considering hiring staff in Florida, which holds its primary Jan. 29 and campaigning in California, which along with a number of other big states will hold its primary on Feb. 5.

"We are working on spending every single penny," Benton said.
Paul campaign balloons as cash keeps rolling in

For those that are interested, RP will be on Glenn Beck for 1 hour tomorrow (the 18th) in prime time and on Meet the Press with Tim Russert this coming Sunday (23rd). The campaign is also going to run a 1/2 hour infomercial in Iowa over this coming weekend:

Part I

Part II

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This is in response to a discussion about Ron Paul's chances for the GOP nomination. It's my contention that a lot of RP's support is "invisible" to the MSM and major polls. Have a look here. It outlines the biases inherent in many of the mainstream polls. For example, Rasmussen excludes anyone who doesn't have a voting history - ie. all the people being energized by the RP campaign to get involved in politics/elections for the first time are excluded from their sample.

Ron Paul is going to do much, much better in Iowa, NH and SC than the MSM pundits are predicting. He isn't relying on a strong showing to maintain cash flow for his campaign (to carry through to later primaries) either. He has the type of support now to maintain a 50 state campaign while other candidates have to drop out because they don't have the funds or infrastructure of support necessary to continue. RP will be well represented on the GOP convention floor. I am optimistic that he will, in fact, win the day.
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I've been following this guy for what seems like forever. I came across a YouTube video of him before he announced his run for President. When he officially announced I threw my support his way and he hasn't said or done anything since that would cause me to change my opinion of him. He'd be amazing for the country... now if only all the youth like myself who actually love this man would go out and vote.
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Frank Zappa: Well, for one thing, remember that a guy who is in politics lives by the vote and dies by the vote, and they also die by the phone call and the letter and the telegram. And if you think that all this stuff that is going on is nauseating, you have to fight it on the local level with your local people, because if you remind these *******s they won't have a job next time around, you can get them to see things your way.

That's one of the reasons why the fundamentalists have been so successful. If Pat Robertson goes on the air and says, `Now we want you people to call,' 50,000 phone calls will go into a Senator's office on a given piece of legislation. And he's manipulating foreign policy all over the place from the pulpit on these shows. You ought to watch The 700 Club sometime. That's what these guys are doing. And the only way that the guy in Washington or the guy in the State House is going to know how you feel about this stuff is you have to speak up. It's not just good enough to grumble on the job. You have to make the phone call, send the telegram and keep doing it.

GS: Especially since they do seem to be winning the battle from the ground up, instead of from the Federal down.

FZ: That's right. And the other thing that you can do is, if you think the people who are in office right now are nauseating, run for something. It's not just enough to vote them out. I don't think that anybody's ever considered the fact that even if you're wearing leather and have a Mohawk six feet tall, go do it. How could you do it any worse than they're doing it?
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The "earned media" is starting to roll in:
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... The congressman's campaign is dramatically exceeding fundraising expectations in the current quarter. The campaign's unreasonable goal of $12 million has been exceeded by more than 50 percent already and there is every reason to believe that Paul will almost certainly finish the quarter with more than $20 million raised.

Paul could well end up raising more than any of the other Republican contenders and providing the only serious competition for Democratic money leaders Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

...

Paul now has enough money to be a serious presence in the caucuses and primaries through the winter - he's currently tied with John McCain in Iowa and posting credible numbers in New Hampshire - and into the spring.

...

Paul's campaign refers to itself as "The Ron Paul Revolution" and there can be no doubt any longer that it is revolutionizing the way in which grassroots fundraising plays out in American presidential campaigns. Now, the question is whether Paul's crusade can revolutionize the campaign game itself by using the money to upset the political order. Even those who do not share his "Old Right" libertarian views - which tend to be throwbacks to the stay-out-of-trouble abroad and keep-government-small at home positions espoused by Republican Senator Robert Taft in the 1940s and 1950s - can and should be encouraged by the fact that a candidate is breaking the rules and getting a resounding response from grassroots donors.

If Republican primary voters follow - even in reasonable numbers - then Ron Paul's campaign really will be a revolution. And he will be the 2008 candidate who is remembered for doing something that can matter more than winning a party nomination or a November election, and that is changing the politics of a country that needs every new approach to altering a corrupt and dysfunctional status quo.
The Real Ron Paul Revolution (CBS News)

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FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

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Here’s my question to you: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?

...

Rafik Mikhael:

Polls are a scientific tool to reach an unscientific result. The deception begins when you assume (mistakenly) that the expectation of people to actually take the trouble and go on a winter day to vote for their favorite candidate is equal among all campaigns. With this assumption it make sense that surveying people’s opinions would give an indicator as to the expected result of the actual vote. But the fact is, supporters are not equally enthusiastic about their candidates. Many supporters poll for a candidate cause he is the one they see everyday on TV, not because they are truly enthusiast about his message. Come voting day, you probably wouldn’t take the trouble to wake up and head for the booth unless you really believe in someone’s message, no matter how many times you see him on TV. You want a more scientific way to count the votes a priori? find a way to measure not only the size of the support, but the depth of it!!

...

Terry:

Depends on which poll you are talking about. Do you mean the so-called scientific polls where the GOP party refuses to even name Ron Paul as a choice of candidates on the poll? Do you mean the poll that doesn’t name Ron Paul as a choice but his numbers and his supporter’s are forced to either choose “other” or “undecided” for lack of other options? Or do you mean a poll that only polls Republicans that voted Republican in 2004 which is a very poor reflection of his support? As a person who is very familiar with who is supporting Ron Paul, the real numbers are reflected in a cross section of Americans who are changing parties just for him. Independents, Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, people who have never even voted before, and everything else you can imagine. A poll of card carrying Republicans, rarely even given the choice of Ron Paul as an option, is a pathetic reflection of his support. The polls are not a reflection of someone’s popularity, it’s just another tool of the NeoCons to manipulate people to tell them who to vote for.
Don’t believe me? Feel free to request the recording one Ron Paul supporter made while being polled a few weeks back. No Ron Paul option and when the person choose “other”, the recording said thanks and told them they would be removed from the calling list. In other words they aren’t interested in polling people who choose Ron Paul. And there are many reports from Ron Paul supporter’s of similar shenanigans.
Ron Paul’s “money bomb”? (there are over 1,000 reponses to his question, I only highlighted 2 of them)

Andrew Sullivan, author of The Conservative Soul has endorsed Ron Paul:
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... But the deeper reason to support Ron Paul is a simple one. The great forgotten principles of the current Republican party are freedom and toleration. Paul's federalism, his deep suspicion of Washington power, his resistance to government spending, debt and inflation, his ability to grasp that not all human problems are soluble, least of all by government: these are principles that made me a conservative in the first place. No one in the current field articulates them as clearly and understands them as deeply as Paul. He is a man of faith who nonetheless sees a clear line between religion and politics. More than all this, he has somehow ignited a new movement of those who love freedom and want to rescue it from the do-gooding bromides of the left and the Christianist meddling of the right. The Paulites' enthusiasm for liberty, their unapologetic defense of core conservative principles, their awareness that in the new millennium, these principles of small government, self-reliance, cultural pluralism, and a humble foreign policy are more necessary than ever - no lover of liberty can stand by and not join them.

He's the real thing in a world of fakes and frauds. And in a primary campaign where the very future of conservatism is at stake, that cannot be ignored. In fact, it demands support.
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While Ron Paul’s opponents are going broke, Paul is just starting to gain momentum and shows no signs of slowing down. Ron Paul’s issue orientated campaign promoting the theme of peace, freedom, and prosperity, is winning.

Ron Paul has emerged the Republican frontrunner despite media censorship. Media outlets that state otherwise are not being honest. The idea that a media generated polls should somehow be more important than grassroots fund raising generated by thousands of donations is absurd.
Ron Paul is now the GOP frontrunner

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Ron Paul says he’s treated differently by fellow members of Congress since setting online fundraising records.

“There’s a better rapport now with other Republicans,” he said. “They respect fundraising. And their antennas are up!”
The Buzz: Ron Paul says his fundraising earns GOP respect
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This is the stuff that happens when you're the front-runner out there, and when you're at least surging into the lead, and a lot of people are taking aim at Huckabee now. It will be interesting to see how he's going to react to it. One thing he's not going to do, is go on Meet the Press. You know, Russert has offered all of these candidates an option to appear for a full hour, and Huckabee has turned it down. He doesn't want the media scrutiny right now. He's going to run his TV ads and do whatever. Ron Paul has run in and said, "Okay, if Huckabee doesn't have the guts to go on Meet the Press, I will! I'm not afraid of Tim Russert. I'll go on Meet the Press!" So Ron Paul's going to be there instead of Huckabee, who's going to continue to rely on his TV ads.
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Money is great to have for campaigns.

But Why Should Ron Paul be President??
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See the bottom of post #14 or better yet, go to http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ and read about his positions and platform. If reading is a four letter word for you, you can also check out the plethora of videos on the web where Ron Paul discusses his positions. A couple of good ones are:

Ron Paul on Candidates@Google

Dr. Ron Paul For President 2008

Ron Paul interview on PBS' NOW (see the extended interview video)

Ron Paul on CNN Headline News/Glenn Beck
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Ron Paul getting local press in New Hampshire:
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... “The ultimate goal is to restore the Constitution,” he said, and continues to oppose all of the country’s entitlement programs, including Social Security and Medicare.

“I’d rather have a transition that is orderly than wait for the financial collapse (of those programs) that is coming,” said Paul.

Still, he said he would do better for the nation’s elderly and poor than any of the more recent Democratic or Republican administrations.

“I don’t talk about cuts for the elderly,” he said. “The elderly are losing already (due to increasing costs and cuts to entitlement programs).”

However, he would allow young people to “opt out” of entitlement programs with things like health savings accounts and tax credits, he said.

“There is a continual erosion of our standard of living due to an erosion of the dollar, which is related to our foreign policy,” Paul said.

The Texas Congressman said his foreign policy would be “humble” as opposed to the aggressive positions taken by current and former administrations. That would involve bringing troops back, not only from Iraq, but from places like Korea and Europe.

...

Paul believes America needs to remain strong, but supports lowering the number of soldiers.

“Why do we need all these troops?” he asked. “Nobody is going to attack us.”

Besides, the argument is irrelevant, Paul said, because we’re running out of money, and borrowing to keep the military at current levels and engaged in multiple wars.

“It is the beginning of the end of America’s empire,” he said.

...
Paul takes no credit for supporters' "revolution"

Interesting comment on the New Hampshire public radio web site:
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I've knocked on a hundred doors myself, and you know what I've found? The competition is not "tough" at all. Voters are overwhelmingly undecided, and it's EASY to turn them to Ron Paul supporters -- all we have to do is expose them to what he stands for. They're already Ron Paul supporters, but they don't know it! They just have to shake off the bias against him, that they get from media blips like this one that say he faces "tough competition." This is an obnoxious and unsubstantiated claim. You're missing the story! The real story is: there has never been a ground movement for a presidential candidate like this in history. And when the tally comes in -- the tally of first-time voters, former democratic voters, independents, libertarians, and formerly disenchanted voters (that was me) -- it will be plainly obvious that the media has been missing the true story of this election cycle. Ron Paul just might win by a landslide. Get ready.
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going to register to vote today so i can officially throw this man my support
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