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08-30-2008, 12:41 PM
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@thegamerslink
Hey man, get off your high horse and start walking among us.
Again, my point is: they are benefiting from product that they claim bad for you which has nothing to do with making the laws banning tobacco products. They don’t want to do that and never will and why should they.
This topic says: Why are the cigarette companies still in business?
My answer: because government wants them to be in this business
Again: I hear you to making some noises but... what is your point?
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08-30-2008, 12:43 PM
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My answer: because government wants them to be in this business
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You haven't provided an argument from which this conclusion would follow.
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08-30-2008, 01:03 PM
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@John Scott
3 words: war on drugs
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08-30-2008, 01:31 PM
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That's not in the same sphere, I think you're a bit misguided.
And I have made my points, you as yet have not.
Point: Government has not authority to make laws pertaining to the legal standings of tobacco companies. The Government does though have authority to defend it's borders from smuggling, piracy, human trading/slavery, terrorism and a multitude of other things. These are all things directly related to "The War on Drugs" I don't see a connection with licensed Tobacco companies that employ many thousands of people. I don't see how you can relate the two?
As an edit, so there is no mis interpretation, Point: The government has no authority to establish the views for each individual on the morality of the Tobacco companies. In essence it is not for the government to decide if it is right or wrong.
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08-30-2008, 02:20 PM
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@thegamerslink
I maybe misguided about many things but government is not one of them. You don't have to tell me what is the roll of the government should be in our every day lives. It's about time you pull your head out of the sand and start facing reality.
Government doesn't have to proclaim Tobacco Companies illegal, all they have to do is to declare Tobacco illegal the same way they did with Drugs. You wanna bet Tobacco Companies will survive without line of tobacco products? After all in the end of the day they are making 5 times less than the Government making and one thing you should learn about government, is that they will never say no to the revenue mostly if it comes to them as a bonus.
Again. The question was: Why are the cigarette companies still in business?
I say: because Government will never declare Tobacco illegal substance
Tell me that I am wrong
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08-30-2008, 02:27 PM
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They will not declare Tobacco an illegal substance you are correct. But not for the reason that you are proclaiming it to be, sorry.
Following your premise then Marijuana and Cocaine would have never been made illegal either. Do you not think the government would be in a position to make multitude times more tax income from those legalized drugs than tobacco? Your logic is flawed.
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08-30-2008, 02:33 PM
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They will not declare Tobacco an illegal substance you are correct. But not for the reason that you are proclaiming it to be, sorry.
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+1.
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08-30-2008, 02:40 PM
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Thank you
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08-30-2008, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thegamerslink
They will not declare Tobacco an illegal substance you are correct. But not for the reason that you are proclaiming it to be, sorry.
Following your premise then Marijuana and Cocaine would have never been made illegal either. Do you not think the government would be in a position to make multitude times more tax income from those legalized drugs than tobacco? Your logic is flawed.
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I say: revenue, revenue, revenue and nothing but revenue
What is your reason?
As to your second part, read this:
http://www.middlefingeraward.com/vie...186b3fdf371e81
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08-30-2008, 04:09 PM
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If you would learn how to read you would know my reason, I've stated it very clearly for you more than once.
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06-29-2009, 02:35 AM
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Smooking weed offers people an option to kill time and themself, BTW suicide websites are in business, right?
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07-22-2009, 04:14 PM
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Why to take countries separately and why to talk on a perticular country.We must realised that the countries around the world are globalised and free to trade from one boundary to another.What if People of UK quit smoking but people of other countries are still smoking.
The Cigarette companies don't produce cigarette considering a particular country.If they get sale in US they will trade in US .If they get sale on next planet they will trade on that even.
Due to increase in active smokers and demands of the cigarettes the companies are still in buisness not only in business rather making good profits as well.
Today you may find a lot of more companies added in the list.
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