“What if you couldn’t marry the person you love?” - Page 6

susanqy · 10-14-2008, 01:57 AM

I can not accept,Feel uncomfortable, to see if the same sex so close.But gay have their own rights to marry with their love

susanqy · 10-14-2008, 01:59 AM

Men and women to marry in order to extend the life, of course, which was developed productive forces, however, now we can not

krahmaan · 10-14-2008, 05:52 PM

I don't mean to put anybody down, but this subject is a whole lot easier than it seems. Just think about it, how did even gay persons get into this world? It wasn't by two men, or two women mind you.

So to me being gay is like fulfilling extraordinary (odd/unnatural) sexual desires. Like bestiality, or Zoophilia. Of course you can choose to get away with that if you wanted to -sure.

But it strays way beyond the natural sense of mating and reproduction. Hence, you could choose to marry your pet friend or same sex partner. But you will have to bare the ridicule (consequence) -simple math.

You will not be making any offspring the natural way, maybe the mad scientist's way in some laboratory or something possibly.

Then comes teaching and raising the children if you succeed. Will you tell them that they cannot marry the opposite sex? Because that's the vibe they will get! Children learn most from what they see, what the parents do and least from what they say. Maybe they will teach the offspring to say aarf, or how about moo?

Seriously, if you were to ask someone who is gay how they were born they will all tell you the same thing "By a man and a woman."

xceedbd · 10-15-2008, 02:22 PM

its vary from man to man ! actually it depends on what feeling u have !

krahmaan · 10-15-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xceedbd

its vary from man to man ! actually it depends on what feeling u have !

^ So to you Marriage (Holy Matrimony) was created by man?

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krahmaan · 10-15-2008, 05:02 PM

Think of Adam and Eve. Adam didn't wed himself to Eve -did he? Someone gave Eve to Adam. So who ever gave Eve to Adam IS the ONE who created a marriage.

I wonder who made that holy miracle happen? Can you guess??? Hmmmmmm? (scratching head)

Atom · 10-15-2008, 05:08 PM

Where's the 'maybe' option?

I mean, I'd have to see the dude first.

Atom · 10-15-2008, 05:15 PM

Little joke there ..

Seriously though, I'm not gay, and I used to be against gay marriage, but, I'm not so sure anymore if that's the right attitude to have. What good would it do for me to have an attitude against gay marriage?

Atom · 10-15-2008, 05:49 PM

I can't think of any good that it would do, for me to have an attitude against gay marriage.

Now I'll ask this, what good would it do, for me to have an attitude in favor of gay marriage? Is there any good that could come from me having an attitude in favor of it?

krahmaan · 10-16-2008, 06:34 PM

^ Hehe har har. Homophobic God huh? I never heard that one before -creative. I thought you didn't believe God existed? So now you believe in a homophobic God? Well, to each his own.

I say what I say Ferre, because there IS such a thing as right and wrong. Many people think that it's wrong to tell two gay people not to marry. But their acts of choosing to be gay in the first place was a wrong choice mind you. Not only in the eyes of what is natural, but also in that which is Holy.

You don't have to believe in God to know this as true. And just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean that He is still not looking down on you. It also doesn't mean that He still doesn't love you. He rather you be informed rather misinformed.

Now about my "medieval attitude". So I might seem outdated, but nature will be the same mother nature no matter what time or date. She'll still water the Earth so even the ungrateful can have a drink.

The word God actually has no meaning for me. Just another language e.g. God, Christ, Allah, Buddha. I call Him by the name of "The Source." Please don't call Him "the homophobic source", because then you'll only sound like you're calling yourself a homo.

But hey like I said, to each his own. I'm not calling you a homo and I can't stop the acts, but I can put the truth out there for anyone who may want to rethink their choices.

sitetutor · 10-16-2008, 10:52 PM

Why are we arguing this? The Bible clearly states that man and woman should be married and then have sex. Not that I have any space to toot my own horn or having set a great example for my beliefs, but the truth is just that.

krahmaan · 10-16-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sitetutor

Why are we arguing this? The Bible clearly states that man and woman should be married and then have sex. Not that I have any space to toot my own horn or having set a great example for my beliefs, but the truth is just that.

And your point?

I've been giving all these examples to prove no matter how long this debate goes on, I won't be giving away my third place bronze.

sitetutor · 10-16-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by krahmaan

And your point?

I've been giving all these examples to prove no matter how long this debate goes on, I won't be giving away my third place bronze.

I look at what God's will is bro. I am not perfect, but I try to strive for perfection and want to know what His will is.

krahmaan · 10-17-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

Got a link?

I got these definitions from an older Websters Dictionary that's right in front of me here at my house. Not on the web, but do you care to argue these definitions and say they aren't definitions of marriage? Please enlighten us Atom.

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Entering into the married state as a religious rite.

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An intimate linking together.

Atom · 10-17-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by krahmaan

I got these definitions from an older Websters Dictionary that's right in front of me here at my house. ...

krahmaan, you'll need to post a link to those definitions, in their entirety, unaltered, in proper order, and including numerals, if you want to have a serious debate.

edit: and by "those definitions", I mean all the definitions for the word marriage in your book.

FocalPoint · 01-09-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

krahmaan, you'll need to post a link to those definitions, in their entirety, unaltered, in proper order, and including numerals, if you want to have a serious debate.

edit: and by "those definitions", I mean all the definitions for the word marriage in your book.

...you're a riot, Atom...a riot! maybe he just wants to use the definition that suits his belief....nothing wrong with that, is there?

Atom · 01-10-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FocalPoint

...you're a riot, Atom...a riot! maybe he just wants to use the definition that suits his belief....nothing wrong with that, is there?

Yes, because none are primary definitions. His first quote from the dictionary is a third definition, and his second quote from the dictionary is a fourth definition (post #136).

krahmaan · 10-17-2008, 01:16 PM

OK Atom, since I know you'll probably bounce around my question like you did my last one...

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Originally Posted by krahmaan

I got these definitions from an older Websters Dictionary that's right in front of me here at my house. Not on the web, but do you care to argue these definitions and say they aren't definitions of marriage?

Here's one link for the most important definition I listed:

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An intimate linking together.

Found at: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/marriage

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marriage/Noun: 4. A close union or relationship.

These two quotes have different wording, but carry the same meaning. So now what Atom? I've given you a link, are you still going to tell me that it's not the definition? If you do, you're wasting everybody's time. Not to be mean, but share won't you?