Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

[SVB]

Are you currently under the affects of a "mind altering substance"?

[gorillaboy]

[SVB]

lmao!!!

[Ferre]

I don't think it's mind altering drugs Stephen, the symptoms are more of mind reducing drugs

[docquesting]

[Ferre]

VIDEO/Text: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil, by Greg Palast

To get back to the subject.

[John Scott]

The value of the American dollar has nothing to do with who trades in it. The value of the dollar has everything to do with the cost of living in America. Inflation is a bad thing - it kills overseas investment, tourism, and our #1 export (education of foreign students). The Administration has intentionally been de-valuing the US dollar to increase foreign cash inflow. raising the value of the dollar cannot be done by getting people to trade in it; and we don't want it increased anyway. It's bad for the economy.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

VIDEO/Text: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil, by Greg Palast

To get back to the subject.

Um, newsflash. We do not control Iraq's oil. We do not control Iraq. They make their own laws now, and oil prices are at a record high.

[gorillaboy]

The point is that these plans were made in January of 2001.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by gorillaboy

The point is that these plans were made in January of 2001.

So?

[notepad]

Originally Posted by Atom

I have a question. Is the federal reserve actually (these 10 or so) international bankers' money?

In a word, yes.

By definition, the name "Federal Reserve" is deceptive. The institution is not Federal, neither does it hold any reserves. The Federal Reserve is a privately owned corporation set up for profit.

The Federal Reserve, America’s fourth privately owned central bank, was granted the privilege by Congress in 1913, to coin and print money (Federal Reserve Notes) and set interest rates for the U.S. economy.

Who does the Constitution give the power to create money?

The Constitution of the United States strictly prohibits any institution, except congress from coining and printing currency in America. It reads: Article 1 - Section 8 - Paragraph 5 - "To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coins, and the standard of weights and measures."

Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee during the Roosevelt years, confirmed the fact that The Federal Reserve is private. He said: "In the United States today we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government. Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are Reserved to Congress by the constitution."

The Federal Reserve System was conceived by seven men within the United States. These 7 men who met in total secrecy to establish the Federal Reserve System represented an estimated one fourth of the total wealth of the entire world.

Economically the time in which the Fed was conceived was a period of economic stability following the great financial panic of 1907.

Why was the federal reserve created?

The perceived popular view of why the Federal Reserve was created was to stabilize the American economy.

This is false.

The basic reason the Federal Reserve was established was to transfer the wealth of the American people into the hands of the stockholders of the Federal Reserve.

It was also created for the purpose of coining and printing U.S. currency without the backing of gold or precious metal. This is pure fiat money.

It was also conceived for the purpose of subjecting the entire world into perpetual debt ...by providing loans in any amount to both the U. S. Congress and private industry, for the purported intent of the stabilization of the economy and national security ...as well as propping up faltering foreign countries and businesses, the Federal Reserve System has made debtors of the world.

Just as providing an infusion of currency into the economy, the Federal Reserve has become the chief instrument in contracting the nation’s money supply and increasing interest rates. This immense economic manipulating power has created and will continue to create various levels of economic panic, recession, and depression.

In other words, the Federal Reserve System is in total control of the financial climate of the United States for the purpose of it’s economic exploitation.

92 years after the establishment of the Federal Reserve System we celebrate insurmountable debt and perpetual inflationary expansion. The system guarantees a feudalistic servitude of the people in this country to a greedy hidden select few who control the Federal Reserve.








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[John Scott]

Originally Posted by notepad

In a word, yes.

By definition, the name "Federal Reserve" is deceptive. The institution is not Federal, neither does it hold any reserves. The Federal Reserve is a privately owned corporation set up for profit.

The Federal Reserve, America’s fourth privately owned central bank, was granted the privilege by Congress in 1913, to coin and print money (Federal Reserve Notes) and set interest rates for the U.S. economy.

Who does the Constitution give the power to create money?

The Constitution of the United States strictly prohibits any institution, except congress from coining and printing currency in America. It reads: Article 1 - Section 8 - Paragraph 5 - "To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coins, and the standard of weights and measures."

Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee during the Roosevelt years, confirmed the fact that The Federal Reserve is private. He said: "In the United States today we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government. Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are Reserved to Congress by the constitution."

The Federal Reserve System was conceived by seven men within the United States. These 7 men who met in total secrecy to establish the Federal Reserve System represented an estimated one fourth of the total wealth of the entire world.

Economically the time in which the Fed was conceived was a period of economic stability following the great financial panic of 1907.

Why was the federal reserve created?

The perceived popular view of why the Federal Reserve was created was to stabilize the American economy.

This is false.

The basic reason the Federal Reserve was established was to transfer the wealth of the American people into the hands of the stockholders of the Federal Reserve.

It was also created for the purpose of coining and printing U.S. currency without the backing of gold or precious metal. This is pure fiat money.

It was also conceived for the purpose of subjecting the entire world into perpetual debt ...by providing loans in any amount to both the U. S. Congress and private industry, for the purported intent of the stabilization of the economy and national security ...as well as propping up faltering foreign countries and businesses, the Federal Reserve System has made debtors of the world.

Just as providing an infusion of currency into the economy, the Federal Reserve has become the chief instrument in contracting the nation’s money supply and increasing interest rates. This immense economic manipulating power has created and will continue to create various levels of economic panic, recession, and depression.

In other words, the Federal Reserve System is in total control of the financial climate of the United States for the purpose of it’s economic exploitation.

92 years after the establishment of the Federal Reserve System we celebrate insurmountable debt and perpetual inflationary expansion. The system guarantees a feudalistic servitude of the people in this country to a greedy hidden select few who control the Federal Reserve.








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Who owns the Federal Reserve?

The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.

As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms. However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as "independent within the government."

The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized much like private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

[notepad]

Originally Posted by JohnScott

Um, newsflash. We do not control Iraq's oil. We do not control Iraq. They make their own laws now, and oil prices are at a record high.

Sorry John, but you're grossly misinformed. The people of Iraq are not even in control of their own lives, much less their natural resources.

Iraq has been hijacked, plain and simple ...its people murdered and its infrastructure destroyed.

The recent s-elections in Iraq were a fraud and any "laws" you speak of are only US imposed restrictions designed to further effectuate the ongoing theft of Iraq's oil.




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[notepad]

Originally Posted by JohnScott

Who owns the Federal Reserve?

The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.

As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms. However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as "independent within the government."

The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized much like private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

...yeah, right John.

Unfortuantely you derived this information straight from the belly of the beast itself:


http://www.federalreserve.gov/genera...faq/faqfrs.htm


...not really an objective, unbiased viewpoint.




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[John Scott]

Just the fact, notepad. I know your imagination is much more interesting, but the facts are a total killjoy, huh?

If somebody is making more than a pathetic 6% divident off it, you should be a hero and make it public. They'd get arrested and you'd go on TV and you could tell everybody that Bush is Hitler.

[notepad]

Originally Posted by JohnScott

Just the fact, notepad. I know your imagination is much more interesting, but the facts are a total killjoy, huh?

If somebody is making more than a pathetic 6% divident off it, you should be a hero and make it public. They'd get arrested and you'd go on TV and you could tell everybody that Bush is Hitler.

...hmmm, interesting ...what TV network would you suggest?

...the CIA Evening News?








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[notepad]

Here is the result of wars waged against the Iraqi people ...here is the perpetual suffering Iraqis must endure as a result of their "liberation."

The photo attached is one of the thousands of deformed babies born to Iraqis due to environmental poisoning from depleted uranium weaponry used by the U.S. in Iraq.

After seeing this small child, how can anyone say, it was worth it?

Warning! Photo is graphic




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[littleFella]

Originally Posted by gorillaboy

The point is that these plans were made in January of 2001.

Actually, these plans were laid out eaven earlier.

[John Scott]

'Marked increase in cancers'

Cancer surgeons in the southern Iraqi port of Basra report a marked increase in cancers which they suspect were caused by DU contamination from tank battles on the farmland to the west of the city.

But the director of the Pentagon's deployment health support directorate, Dr Michael Kilpatrick, said: "To the question, could depleted uranium be playing a role, the medical answer is no."

Depleted uranium is mildly radioactive but the main health concern is that it is a heavy metal, potentially poisonous.

The likelihood of absorbing it is increased significantly if a weapon has struck a target and exploded because the DU vaporises into a fine dust and can be inhaled.

Dr Kilpatrick said a study that had followed 90 US Gulf War veterans exposed to the dust and to shrapnel from DU rounds in "friendly fire" incidents had found no DU-related medical problems.

Notepad, are you for any wars? I mean, wars kill people. Are you for any war in any case?

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by littleFella

Actually, these plans were laid out eaven earlier.

I'm guessing that they started planning way back around the time the first gulf war was underway. I'm sure they have plans for invasions of North Korea, too. It's better to be ready for that then to start planning once it's already started