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Old 09-04-2005, 12:07 PM
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Alright fair enough.

So what are you saying? Its free masons, illuminati, oil tycoons and carlyle calling the shots and pulling the strings?
 
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Alright fair enough.

So what are you saying? Its free masons, illuminati, oil tycoons and carlyle calling the shots and pulling the strings?
Have a read of this > http://newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis2.htm

"William C. Whitney and others of wealth in the late 19th century developed a plan whereby they would control both major political parties through financial contributions, and then have those parties alternate power so that the public would think it had a choice. Prof. Quigley said that Whitney's plan lasted about 16 years, and after that, the "Eastern Establishment" (power elite) moved the Democrat and Republican presidential candidates toward the political center, "assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes." Prof. Quigley also said, "the process was concealed, as much as possible," and Quigley himself believed "the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." "
 
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Old 09-04-2005, 10:18 PM
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The majority of American people haven't a clue about what's REALLY going on in this country OR in this world.

A sinister cabal of murderous money grubbing war mongering scum within our own ******* government were complicit (along with a few outside the government) in the cold blooded murder of over 3000 of it's own citizens on 9-11-2001, and let me tell you all something ... they all are sittin' pretty to this very day.

You people that don't know, or don't wanna know the TRUTH about what's REALLY going on in this country and in this world, are in for a big surprise. There will come a time when it is too late to do anything about it. Just keep denying it or looking the other way, and see.

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Old 09-04-2005, 11:07 PM
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Educate yourselves, the internet makes it easy. Search for truth.

But we need to do it quickly.
 
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Old 09-05-2005, 02:44 AM
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free masons, illuminati.........do they still exist, last read abt them in Dan Brown novels.....

"You people that don't know, or don't wanna know the TRUTH about what's REALLY going on in this country and in this world, are in for a big surprise. There will come a time when it is too late to do anything about it. Just keep denying it or looking the other way, and see."

I think it is a bit late...........agree or not.............its all about survival of the fittest..........the worlds gettin smaller and smaller.............sumbody has to live, and for that sumbody has to go.........."power" is the ultimate aphrosodiac.
 
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:53 PM
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People should do some more reading, IF THEY ONLY KNEW ABOUT THIS HERE:

Vatican Assassins

(a rather large pdf file, but a read that should make you ask some questions.)

..and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:52 AM
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Btw, did any of you guys read this?

http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm
http://www.rense.com/general67/newvegas.htm
 
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how come....



you have to bring political propaganda, from both sides into every conversation started on this forum?
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:22 AM
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how come....



you have to bring political propaganda, from both sides into every conversation started on this forum?
What you call 'political', my friend, is known by some as 'life' and since when is looking at issues from different perspectives/angles disturbing you? have you seen a doctor about this yet? I'm sure a qualified doctor will have the proper downers for you so the reality of life won't disturb you that much anymore, afterall, 52% of the people (INCL. children) in the United States of Great Medicine is on some sort of tranquilizer already. (welcome to the brave new world)

Another solution would be to avoid general conversations, as you never know what they could turn into and before you know it there could be politics involved.
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:50 AM
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heh, I dont take medication :-p

and why would I want a tranquilizer, life is great

and also then lets take out the pword political from my statment, why do you post so much propaganda, I'm starting to think your guilibility rating might be true :-p
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:33 AM
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Not those particular sites but I have read some interesting theories on other sites. BTW, Ferre, I am not sure if you are aware of this, but, that rense.com link that you posted is the infamous Jeff Rense who is a MAJOR gatekeeper in the truth movement.

For those of you who do not know what that is, it's a person/site that is active in the truth movement, seemingly on the side of truth about government, but refuses to address certain key issues that could lead to action against the guilty. Often these are radio show hosts and will not allow guest speakers on their shows, for example, that they know will want to discuss these key issues etc.. thus they are actually protecting the guilty, and are "company men" wolves, in sheep clothing.

Most do not realize this, but, there were gatekeepers lined up for the 9/11 tragedy, before it even took place. People today see them as seekers of truth in the truth movement but they are actually on the side of the enemy, the guilty. I know this seems crazy, but it is the truth. I can show you a list of gatekeepers/gatekeeper sites, and will do so in the near future.

Back to the issue ...

I think that as time passes we will be discovering some ugly facts about this tragedy.

In referrence to the Vatican Assassins PDF, I have read about 70 pages thus far and am finding it a very interesting read.

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Old 09-06-2005, 12:11 PM
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What about this article dated 2001!!

Drowning New Orleans A major hurricane could swamp New Orleans under 20 feet of water, killing thousands. Human activities along the Mississippi River have dramatically increased the risk, and now only massive reengineering of southeastern Louisiana can save the city
There goes the "we didn't know", or "we had no time to act" excuse down the drain.

Where I come from, this smells like treason.
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:46 PM
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In relation wth the above...

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In a live interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Bush mumbled, "I fully understand people wanting things to have happened yesterday."

Then Bush told a lie: "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees."
How many lies does it take for the American people to recognize a chronic liar? And this liar costs many lives!!!
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 09:04 PM
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Just heard that Halliburton has been contracted to be a very large part of the renovation in Louisiana.

For those of you who are familiar with ice fishing ... FISH ON! (red flag pops up)
 
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How come ..

we (US) give Israel 10 billion dollars a year which is helping them build a 450 mile long wall around their country, and we not only did not give LA money to upgrade a 50 mile long cat3 wall to a cat5 wall, that we knew was necessary for years, but CUT their funding for flood control?

September 5, 2005—The devastation and human toll of Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath is beyond already words, and it is worsening. To say the Bush administration non-response is an international disgrace is putting it so mildly, it is grotesquely insulting. It may also be missing the point.

What the world already knows is that the Bush administration withheld funding and hampered disaster preparation, failed to aid rescue and relief efforts, and waited four days to even begin to get barely adequate supplies to victims.

It is obvious Bush and his administration behaved in a strangely detached and callous fashion, just as it did leading up to, and during, 9/11. As it was with 9/11, the administration is again being criticized for incompetence, negligence, mismanagement, and the "failure" to prevent thousands of lives from being lost.

That is the official version.

New reports, including accounts from eyewitnesses and survivors from the hardest hits areas like New Orleans, suggest the hurricane victims have been deliberately left to die.

The People of the Dome, a report from a survivor writing from New Orleans' French Quarter, charges that the "delays" and withholding of relief and supplies were deliberate

Food and water were blocked from getting in.

Roads were not "impassable"; the same roads the National Guard used to drive into the city were open for relief.

Rescue workers were blocked from reaching victims at gunpoint.

Water was turned off for no reason, by Governor Kathleen Blanco, to force mass evacuation.

The military confiscated available buses, and would not allow some people to leave.

Bus evacuation was available, to the highest bidders.

The "looting" was done by ordinary people grabbing supplies being withheld by state and federal authorities, to save lives, and sold by those who wanted enough money to leave the area (This report is reprinted in its entirety below.)

In an e-mail titled "Economics of disaster", which contains a firsthand account attributed to a New Orleans rescue worker, blogger Ned Sublette notes:

"The poorest 20 percent (you can argue with the number—10 percent? 18 percent? No one knows) if the city was left behind to drown. This was the plan. Forget the sanctimonious bull**** about bullheaded people who wouldn't leave. The evacuation plan was strictly laissez-faire. It depended on privately owned vehicles, and on having ready cash to fund an evacuation. The planners knew full well that the poor, who in New Orleans are overwhelmingly black, wouldn't be able to get out. The resources—meaning the political will—weren't there to get them out."

While nothing is clear at this early stage, the truth will undoubtedly emerge from accounts of this kind, as more survivors of these ground zeros tell their story—if they get out. This is the truth that media whitewashes and lying politicians will do their best to deny, dismiss and cover up.

Letting it Happen, Making the Rest Happen

According to the official legend of September 11, the US government—the Bush administration and its agencies—were caught off guard by a catastrophic foreign terrorist attack. The administration, according to the myth, failed to stop the attacks because of incompetence, negligence, and a host of other variations.

Evidence in the ensuing four years prove that 9/11 was a long-planned murder, executed by the Bush administration and its assets, using a combination of deliberate facilitation (of guided intelligence assets and patsies—also known as "letting it happen on purpose"), and synchronized action at both the federal and local level (New York Mayor Rudolf Guiliani, etc.). This included the rigged demolition of the World Trade Center, the deliberate manipulation of national air defenses, and the destruction of evidence (by the powerful FEMA and other agencies).

A calamity made and allowed to happen, and then covered up.

With Hurricane Katrina, disturbing similarities are emerging, along with another growing list of unanswered questions: 1) Foreknowledge of potentially catastrophic flooding. 2) A non-response/stand down during which federal assistance was not authorized, but blocked and prevented from reaching the suffering. 3) A window of chaos (during which deliberate government crimes took place,) followed by a militarization and cover-up.

Behavior of the Bush Administration

On 9/11 during the World Trade Center attacks, Bush was in a Florida schoolroom reading a story about a pet goat, in apparently unconcerned fashion. As Hurricane Katrina hit, Bush was on vacation.

As American citizens continued to die, Ben Bernanke, chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, member of Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, and possibly the next Federal Reserve chairman, declared that Katrina's impact is "modest" on the "aggregate data." He has insisted that the effects will only be "temporary," and "absorbed relatively easily," and that "even the worst-affected states like Louisiana and Mississippi should see benefits in time." This statement from the world economy's next possible leader, in addition to a monumentally grotesque lie, has become the centerpiece of Bush's "optimistic" forecasts.

While hurricane victims continued to die, Bush ended his vacation. As victims starved, Bush had lunch with his economic advisors and representatives of the major oil companies. In his first press conference, Bush parroted Bernanke line, then passed the humanitarian public relations buck to Poppy and Bush family friend Bill "really good with the blacks" Clinton.

As American citizens continued to die, and faced with mounting international outrage, Bush posed for photo-ops, mouthed non-sequitors, callous one liners ("Don't buy gas if ya don't have to"), and boasted of (then non-existent) federal "help," while warning desperate hurricane victims that their acts of desperation deserved "zero tolerance."

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin's "desperate SOS" was met with Bush administration ears that remained strangely deaf for days. In a now-historic radio interview, Nagin blasted Bush with profanity-laced outrage, accusing the federal government of "feeding the people a line of bull****."

"Don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here. They're not here. It's too goddamn late. Now get off your asses and let's do something, and let's fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country," he demanded.

In a live interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Bush mumbled, "I fully understand people wanting things to have happened yesterday."

Then Bush told a lie: "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees."

In fact, possibly catastrophic levee failure and flooding have been the focus of urgent warnings from local, state, and federal authorities for years. In fact, "everyone" knew about it, and "everyone" was demanding federal help—and did not receive it. In fact, the Bush administration cut money for flood control, and provided less than 50 percent of money requested by the Army Corps of Engineers for New Orleans flood prevention. In 2001, FEMA itself ranked hurricane damage to New Orleans as one of three most likely catastrophes facing the US. Read more here > http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special...90505chin.html

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Old 09-06-2005, 10:21 PM
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"The Bush administration is a criminal organization designed purely for corruption, manufactured destruction, and lying. Nothing else. Their behavior during this crisis constitutes criminal negligence at the very least, and perhaps much more."
 
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How come that BushClintonKatrinaFund.org was set up in June (!)?
 
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How come the USA has a PATENT named:

Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere

And again...

HURRICANE KATRINA---WHO BENEFITS? (Guess who!!?)

Cheney called in to sort out Katrina response - such good news for Halliburton profits



Of course, it's just me being anti American again, nothing to see here folks, just walk on, walk on...

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Old 09-08-2005, 02:58 PM
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... Of course, it's just me being anti American again, ...




Speaking of Halliburton ... > http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/katrina2.html
 
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:09 PM
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Thanks for that Atom, and it becomes even more interesting...

"Operation Ophelia": NORTHCOM's Cataclysm Next
 
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