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06-02-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
Try and understand where he's coming from. I don't know what he really thinks, and I don't know if he's just trying to make a point and making it badly, but I always try to understand why somebody feels some way, rather than just judging them from the get go.
Ok, I lied, sometimes I judge people from the get go, but eventually I try to understand where they are coming from.
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I could easily sum this up with one statement, but it would not be appropriate.
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06-02-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
YOu know what's happening now, all those low income jobs aren't coming back and are sitting on their fema support, refusing to come back and work. Refusing to work in general.
That is acceptable?
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Then maybe you should said that clearer here...because it sure sounds like you are lumping them all in together
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06-02-2006, 02:25 PM
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Christy, Is it me, or is your avatar getting closer and closer? Don't get me wrong, I don't mind!
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06-02-2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper
Christy, Is it me, or is your avatar getting closer and closer? Don't get me wrong, I don't mind!
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: ) Realized the photo was sized wrong and fixed it. You are paying attention...really...it was ok cuz I was yelling so it was appropriate that I was getting larger.
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06-02-2006, 02:28 PM
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Christy, do you support affirmative action programs?
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06-02-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
Then maybe you should said that clearer here...because it sure sounds like you are lumping them all in together
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The point of all this mess is, the local governments failed the citizens initially (by not evacuating them or informing them) and then they used the Federal Government as a scapegoat. Then, the media noticed that those left behind were black and made it racist.
then it was....George W Bush doesn't care about Black People....
Forgive me, but that's how I witnessed it. How did it look on your end 1500 miles away?
I am not racist, but after seeing all this go on, i can see how some of these stereotypes came to be true for a specific part of the african american population.
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06-02-2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
Christy, do you support affirmative action programs?
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Affirmative action was set up because of the obvious need - of course it was a GOVERNMENT BAND-AID that didn't work and just caused more animosity.
So to answer your question, I have mixed feelings and can see both sides of the issue.
George Bush couldn't SPELL black people, btw.
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06-02-2006, 02:34 PM
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Nick, your buddy G Dubya, admitted to dropping the ball in N.O.
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06-02-2006, 02:34 PM
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So to answer your question, I have mixed feelings and can see both sides of the issue.
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I swear you're a politician. What ever happened to "yes", or "no"?
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06-02-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Forgive me, but that's how I witnessed it. How did it look on your end 1500 miles away?
I am not racist, but after seeing all this go on, i can see how some of these stereotypes came to be true for a specific part of the african american population.
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First of all, why do you think you are more of an expert on this because you witnessed it? We ALL witnessed it, Nick. I hate the media, but honey, cameras can't lie. Just because you live there doesn't make you a better source of information as to what went wrong. I don't care if the local media failed FIRST... the freakin FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should've helped A BROTHA OUT!
...and quit saying "I am not a racist." Who are you trying to convince?!
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06-02-2006, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
But don't ya think they would've been a little "less" incompetent had the folk down there been rich white lobbyists?
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I would think the rich white lobbyists would have left instead of staying with their homes and trying to 'ride it out'
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06-02-2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
I swear you're a politician. What ever happened to "yes", or "no"?
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I could never be a politician ...you see John...I have a hard time keeping my opinions to myself...and I'm not intimidated by loud men either. *wink* *wink*
My parents had their hands full...
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06-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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So, I want an answer.
You are working admissions at a university. You have to choose between two applicants, a White one with a GPA of 4.0, or a Black one with a GPA of 3.9. Which would you choose?
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06-02-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper
Nick, your buddy G Dubya, admitted to dropping the ball in N.O.
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Did I ever say FEMA wasn't late in arrival? Once again, you fail to see the issue with what I witness first hand and the facts on the local government officials denying of public transportation.
Quick Little Fact:
Kathleen Blanco issued transportation vans for those who did not have transportation to the polls during her election for governor, but failed to issue public transportation during an evacuation. Interesting isn't it.
A writer (who was african american) for the Washington Post spoke to my Mass Comm class about Katrina, saying that the media treated it terribly by misinforming the nation of the facts.
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06-02-2006, 02:41 PM
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I was watching all the news channels before, during, and after. They let that Brown dude talk on TV way too much.
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06-02-2006, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
... I hate the media, but honey, cameras can't lie. ...
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you honestly think that what is edited and spewed to the masses is it? That it really tells the whole picture? Cameras may not lie but they can certainly omit a lot...
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06-02-2006, 02:42 PM
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John, sorry for the double quote in my post #64, just as I was editing the post my connection went down ... twaz the modem being unplugged in the house due to a lightning storm that was moving through. We shut down and unplug things upon their approach.
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06-02-2006, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
First of all, why do you think you are more of an expert on this because you witnessed it? We ALL witnessed it, Nick. I hate the media, but honey, cameras can't lie. Just because you live there doesn't make you a better source of information as to what went wrong. I don't care if the local media failed FIRST...the freakin FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should've helped A BROTHA OUT!
...and quit saying "I am not a racist." Who are you trying to convince?!
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Ya'll didn't witness it. That's like saying I was at the World Trade Center when it was attacked.
Cameras can't lie, but they can deceive. Did you notice most of the people looting were black? Did you notice most pictures taken of those stranded...were black? Did you notice most of the gang members who were roaming the streets...were black?
That's an issue...
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06-02-2006, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Did you notice most pictures taken of those stranded...were black? Did you notice most of the gang members who were roaming the streets...were black?
That's an issue...
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there are white people in new orleans?!? 
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06-02-2006, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
So, I want an answer.
You are working admissions at a university. You have to choose between two applicants, a White one with a GPA of 4.0, or a Black one with a GPA of 3.9. Which would you choose?
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I would choose the most qualified.
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