People going missing on cruise ships - Page 4

Prado · 07-31-2006, 11:30 AM

All that talk of cruise crime is just an eye opener for those of you who have foold yourself into thinking that "oh I am on vacation nothing bad can happen". I feel bad for all those who lost & were abused. It just goes to show that you are not safe anywhere anymore.

imaginemn · 07-31-2006, 11:49 AM

All this is sad to hear but what would you do if you were an employee making minimum wage (or close to it) and saw a crime in front of your eyes? Would you risk your life for a stranger if you were working on a cruise ship, a crowded street, ballgame, mall, etc.?

What really stinks is that all "crimes" happen over international waters, US laws do not apply so a crime is technically never committed. Once you leave that dock, you're pretty much on your own. I know many of the cruise companies are trying to change this but it's pretty much out of their hands legally.

If I were at a bank cashing a check, a robbery occurs during my visit and I get hurt, I can't really blame the bank for that can I? Why is it different on a cruise ship?

EBK · 07-31-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by imaginemn

All this is sad to hear but what would you do if you were an employee making minimum wage (or close to it) and saw a crime in front of your eyes? Would you risk your life for a stranger if you were working on a cruise ship, a crowded street, ballgame, mall, etc.?

Well that of course depends on the situation and the person. The last true fight I got into was a guy at a party who had thrown his girl friend down to the ground. I 'lucky for him' was drunk and passed out, some people awoke me, I stumbled to him, picked him up by the throat, threw him into the cement and broke some bones

'call me an ass but I DO NOT put up with guys hitting woman under ANY circumstance!

That being said though, if the guy had a gun or a knife that would have changed the situation. Are you capable, is there a chance of doing anything positive or are you best off trying to get help or be a witness, each case is different..

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Originally Posted by imaginemn

What really stinks is that all "crimes" happen over international waters, US laws do not apply so a crime is technically never committed. Once you leave that dock, you're pretty much on your own. I know many of the cruise companies are trying to change this but it's pretty much out of their hands legally.?

True, and that's why I said it would be a mistake to simply close down the cruise line as that would be ignoring the true problem. Investigate and change the rules, the laws. I hate big government, but this is a case something needs to be done IMO.

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Originally Posted by imaginemn

If I were at a bank cashing a check, a robbery occurs during my visit and I get hurt, I can't really blame the bank for that can I? Why is it different on a cruise ship?

You pay good money and have an expectation of safety on a cruise ship I would think, it is up to them to provide a safe experience. Yes tragedies can still happen, but when they happen did the cruise line do everything they could or do they use the 'cop out' such as you listed 'what could we really do?'.. That IMO is the difference.

John Scott · 07-31-2006, 02:35 PM

I gotta thank Colleen for these links. It's given me some great ideas and I'll be booking several cruises in the near future with a few "friends".

Julie · 07-31-2006, 02:39 PM

Do not go on a cruise with John!

Brian · 07-31-2006, 02:44 PM

edit -wrong topic- edit

Julie · 07-31-2006, 02:45 PM

Brian, wrong thread!

Brian · 07-31-2006, 02:46 PM

I'd like to know how that happened

Julie · 07-31-2006, 02:46 PM

brain wiring complications?

Brian · 07-31-2006, 02:48 PM

v7n has a mind of its own!

EBK · 07-31-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

I'd like to know how that happened

I think Ferre sent you some of his special stash!

Daniel-Z · 07-31-2006, 02:57 PM

I think a nice few week cruise right now would do me wonders

**ToddW** · 07-31-2006, 05:24 PM

I've read a bunch of these and if you search google you find even more.

The thing is not THAT many people go missing relative to HOW MANY people cruise in a year... still disturbing.

If you've ever been on a cruise or to other coutnries i'm sure you can see how "tourists" acn just up and dissapear!

My advice is to NEVER go anyplace on a cruise ship alone... the same holds true while in port but most of the time you are with more than one person anyway.

I love cruises