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Old 07-13-2007, 01:49 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Now you're talking - Piri Reis map, indeed yes. Have you read Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock? This gives a very good explanation of the sort of people who could have come up with the basis for the Piri Reis map - and a good explanation of where they might be from. Not extraterrestrial, merely very advanced and competent mariners. It is certainly odd that maps which had been copied from BC periods and kept through the ages were of much better quality than, say, C13, 14, 15 maps.

Fingerprints of the Gods talks about the pyramids in great depth too. If you haven't read it, I know you'd love it. Now, the book has many flaws, and Hancock draws many dodgy conclusions. But the materials he draws upon to reach his conclusions are fundamentally sound, not to say extraordinary and eye-opening.

Nazca lines - Daniken theorises that they were landing strips. That's lunacy. The lines are drawn in 9 inches of loose soil. How many landing strips do you know made of a thick covering of loose dusty soil? The wheels would break instantly. And wouldn't aliens have VTOL? But that's Von Daniken for you. Hancock also talks about these things - Titicaca, Nazca lines, Viracocha and so on. His ideas are much more plausible.

Please, if you haven't read it, get it - the things you mention are all covered here and I promise you'll be delighted with it. Aliens aren't needed as an explanation. I'm not discounting anything, just saying that you don't need aliens to explain these things
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if you read my posts - i only like the questions daeniken is asking. i never said his answers or theories are worth anything. but i also said, his questions are not answered until today, not by himself, not by hancock, not by any scientists.
hancocks answer for thr piri reis map - well, in my opinion, just another theory, but no answer!
the nazca lines - certainly no landing strip - but for sure something we cant explain.
and the pyramids - well, i dont know if you heard about the experiment, by some swiss architects and scientists. they wanted to build the cheops-pyramide, scaled down to a height of 25 meters, only using technics and tools, which were available at that time. to cut a long story short: at a little bit over 17 meters, the whole thing transformed in a pile of rubble. until today we KNOW almost nothing about the pyramids. we suspect a lot and some things might be close to the truth - but honestly we KNOW nothing!

by the way: i heard about hancock, read some stuff about and from him but never the book you mentioned. will put it on my to do list! thanks!
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A Scientologist eh!

Just playing with ya!
who? me or daeniken?

me - absolutely, certainly, surely, 100 % NOT!!
daeniken - honestly dont know!
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Like Robert said :
"we suspect a lot and some things might be close to the truth - but honestly we KNOW nothing!"

There are some similar things beetween all pyramids at different centuries, this is weird that they can build things like that with the knowledge they had.

Particularly the aligment with the pyramid and temple which was perfect. I don't remember the details, but I saw that on the TV.

How could it be possible?
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned SETI yet, all that searching and nothing, what could it mean?

Of course there is the mother of all haystacks to search and we should remember that there is no reason that two civilisations need to exist at the same time, but you have to ask if not yet, when?
I think you answered your own question pretty effectively.

I would add that we've only been searching (SETI) for a very short time. We've been at it for fifty years or so. With the way we keep killing each other on this planet and developing more and more devastating ways to do it, it remains to be seen if SETI will see it's 100th birthday. Against the timeline of the universe, that's quicker than the blink of an eye or the flap of a hummingbird wing. And, we musn't forget about the WOW signal. Far from conclusive, but it was something.
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I think it is unrealistic to think that we are the only people in the world. The universe is too big not to have some type of "other beings"

When I was in the mtns of NC, we thought we saw several. We later found out that the light was a weather balloon from officials. I am still not convinced it was not the real thing. After all, there are some people in NC that seem like extraterrestials to me.
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