Solving the rising ocean problem

[intruth]

One way to solve the rising ocean problem while saving rich people money stopping loss of ocean front property and feeding the hungry at the same time while producing free flow energy...

Build Huge Lakes in Desert Regions...

Tell me what you think...

[briggidere]

well, unless the weather patterns change, the water that was put the the holes that took tens of years to dig, would evaporate away surely. Then raining back to where it was picked up therefore deeming this completely insane. No?

I am not an expert, obviously. I suppose if you shifted enough water, that alone could alter a weather pattern, but it would be bloody expensive and might not work at all.

[intruth]

If you watch the video... A canal is built coming from a spill way running along the pumping system taking the water to the lakes... The canal also has dams built along the way back down to the ocean... These dams would produce electric power to run the water pumps and also supply cities with power... If you watch the video... I cant type it all here...

I am not an expert, obviously. I suppose if you shifted enough water, that alone could alter a weather pattern, but it would be bloody expensive and might not work at all.

One thing I know it would do for sure is lower the rising ocean level saving islands and the very rich people beach front property while creating fertile soil in desert regions with stocked lakes greatly expanding the food source for starving regions...

[briggidere]

ah cool. i wasn't able to yet as i'm at work, but will have a look at it later on. ta for clearing it up a bit for me

[John Scott]

I think we should just force everybody on the planet to drink a gallon of water a day. Surely that would lower the ocean level.

[Cryxellis]

Originally Posted by John Scott

I think we should just force everybody on the planet to drink a gallon of water a day. Surely that would lower the ocean level.

hahaha yeah force everyone to drink water
Just the thought of it makes my stomach ache

[arcel]

build hundreds of space shuttles that can carry large amount of water and send it to moon

[3ncryptabl3_lick]

I didn't watch the whole movie, I'll admit. Mainly becuase when he said create man-made lakes with ocean water made me chuckle. Think about the usefullness of a dozen hypersalin lakes in the desert... ?

And besides, everybody knows that melting polar ice isnt the problem as that doesnt raise the sea level, its melting high altitude new ice that isn't displacing the water lelvels that will make an impact and that will takes a serious raise in temp to do. Far more than we have now. We can melt all the polar icebergs and ice feilds curernlty in the ocaean of the the north and south pole and it wont make a lick of difference as that ice is displacing the water at its maximum already.

[jowsefpirate]

just want to share.. we have the largest mall here and it is sitting in the middle of the water! wtf..! they have gathered lots of soil to put tha mall over... i remember when i was a kid i used to ride a boat and fish there/...wtf

[intruth]

I didn't watch the whole movie, I'll admit. Mainly becuase when he said create man-made lakes with ocean water made me chuckle. Think about the usefullness of a dozen hypersalin lakes in the desert...

The salt could be filtered out on its 300 mile pump...

I believe the best way to lower the ocean would be to build huge lakes in the middle of the deserts where we find the starving people of the world... These lakes would have ocean water pumped up to them filtering out the salt creating a fresh water lake with smaller lakes built between the huge lake and ocean the smaller lake could be use for fish and shell fish farming . The having a canal running from the huge lake back to the ocean... every 100 miles a dam would be built to create power to run the pumping stations while also creating electric for close by cities...

Around this huge lake the ground soil would become fertile and could grow crops and raise cattle...

[3ncryptabl3_lick]

Not to the point of being much, if any, practical help. The pumping stations and desalination alone would be cost prohibitive.

Hell, why not just spend the time and money in wells. There are lots of freshwater aquifers available in the desert from the judean desert to the thar desert, albeit unavailble for most to get too in areas such as that, they can still be tapped.

[intruth]

The water would change the climate as a cooling factor. As far as the electricity produced... Do you know how much electric power hover dam puts out?
( 565 million kilowatt hours per year. )

Smaller Dams pumping water
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/parkerdam.html


Hover Dam power out put...
http://www.howstuffworks.com/hydropower-plant.htm

More on Hover Dam
http://www.physics.umd.edu/perg/abp/aha/hoover.htm

Hell, why not just spend the time and money in wells. There are lots of freshwater aquifers available in the desert from the judean desert to the thar desert, albeit unavailble for most to get too in areas such as that, they can still be tapped.

Wells would not help the land to turn fertile...

[3ncryptabl3_lick]

In theory there are allot of ideas that work, but practically speaking, not allot of them do.

Filling lakes in deserts with ocean water makes for hypersaline lakes that are useless for life or power and does nothing about rising sea levels, in fact it would only exacerbate that situation as you would be introducing higher water tables to an otherwise dryer area.

Desalination and pumping stations to create freshwater from ocean water is cost prohibitive. Nevermind the amount of thjat very same water that would be needed to pump as hydroelectric energy. (which would need to be refreshed at least twice as fast as it is being used) Coupled with plans to use that same water for human use?

Take a look at some of those number in those links. They're big.

I'm not suggesting wells would turn the land fertile. I'm saying that if they want water, there are aquifers available.

Also, you can't really generalize in something like this as 'they' and 'desert' is arbitrary. Without knowing the specific area, sea level, environmental specifics and likely a whole other host of details, nobody can say with a definitve 'yes' that this will work. It's barely theory. Speculation at best.

[intruth]

The Salt water would be Filtered turning Salt water into fresh water... I was not talking about the huge lake being a Salt Water Lake,,, The huge Lake lake would be a Fresh water lake... The smaller salt lakes could be use for shrimp and salt water fish farming...

Also, you can't really generalize in something like this as 'they' and 'desert' is arbitrary. Without knowing the specific area, sea level, environmental specifics and likely a whole other host of details, nobody can say with a definitve 'yes' that this will work. It's barely theory. Speculation at best.

But then so was the world being round, man being able to fly, man landing on the moon, space travel and even the Panama Canal...

[Atom]

The reason that this seems a bit unrealistic to me is because it's essentially a humanitarian effort, which isn't going to be popular with the people with money and power, the ones that can actually make it possible. I think there may have to be reason of greed present for incentive. I guess the question might be, how can we make money from this?

[3ncryptabl3_lick]

The whole concept is wack for so many reasons it bores me now.

[intruth]

Originally Posted by Atom

The reason that this seems a bit unrealistic to me is because it's essentially a humanitarian effort, which isn't going to be popular with the people with money and power, the ones that can actually make it possible. I think there may have to be reason of greed present for incentive. I guess the question might be, how can we make money from this?

That is the whole beauty of this... Because it is the people with money and power that own all the beach front property.... As the ocean level keeps rising the rich and powerful property owners stand to lose hundreds of billions of dollars in real estate...

[intruth]

Originally Posted by 3ncryptabl3_lick

The whole concept is wack for so many reasons it bores me now.

That's what Bernelli said about pizza delivery...

[Atom]

Originally Posted by intruth