Are You Circumcised?

[SVB]

Another quote from some 'sexologist'

There is much unnecessary anxiety over the issue of hygiene. It is not at all difficult to maintain proper hygiene. “...health profes- sionals generally agree that uncircumcised boys do not have any special hygienic problems.” Concern for proper hygiene is over emphasized, and so the needless practice of routine circumcision continues.

I dont see how you can get an infection, unless you dont wash.

[Atom]

I'd have been pissed at my parents if they hadn't made sure it was done to me. Uncircumsized looks too much like a dog.

[John Scott]

LOL. Unreal, there is tons of politically charged anti-circumcision propaganda out there. Politics doesn't interest me.

I dont see how you can get an infection, unless you dont wash.

Get get some sorry girl pregnant. Have a boy. When the doctor offers to do the right thing, say no. Take the kid home, and watch the infections grow. Watch your kid scream in pain as you pull the forskin back over the head of his penis so you can wash out the white "gink" that sits there and infects his penis.

[SVB]

Find me a medical body that supports circumcision. It's supposed to be a religious thing. Although it can lower the risk of infection, that risk is practically null with proper personal hygiene

2003 British Medical Association
“The BMA does not believe that parental preference alone constitutes sufficient grounds for performing a surgical procedure on a child unable to express his own view. . . . Parental preference must be weighed in terms of the child's interests. . . . The BMA considers that the evidence concerning health benefit from non-therapeutic circumcision is insufficient for this alone to be a justification for doing it. . . . Some doctors may wish to not perform circumcisions for reasons of conscience. Doctors are under no obligation to comply with a request to circumcise a child.”


2002 Royal Australasian College of Physicians


“After extensive review of the literature the RACP reaffirms that there is no medical indication for routine male circumcision. The possibility that routine circumcision may contravene human rights has been raised because circumcision is performed on a minor and is without proven medical benefit. . . . Review of the literature in relation to risks and benefits shows there is no evidence of benefit outweighing harm for circumcision as a routine procedure.”


2002 Canadian Paediatric Society (reaffirmed 1996 position)
“Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed.”


2000 American Medical Association


“The AMA supports the general principles of the 1999 Circumcision Policy Statement of the American Academy of Pediatrics.”


1999 American Academy of Pediatrics


“Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision.”


1996 Australian College of Paediatrics
“The Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons has informed the College that ‘neonatal male circumcision has no medical indication. It is a traumatic procedure performed without anaesthesia to remove a normal functional and protective prepuce [foreskin].’ ”


1996 Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons
“We do not support the removal of a normal part of the body, unless there are definite indications to justify the complications and risks which may arise. In particular, we are opposed to male children being subjected to a procedure, which had they been old enough to consider the advantages and disadvantages, may well have opted to reject the operation and retain their prepuce [foreskin]....The 1989 United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child states that ‘State parties should take all effective and appropriate measures with a view to abolishing traditional practices prejudicial to the health of children.’ ”

[Atom]

It is not for religious reasons, except for Jews maybe, but it really is for aesthetic reasons primarily, IMO, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. What guy wants a **** that looks like a dogs **** ..... I mean.... really ..

[John Scott]

Like I said, there's tons of politics in the issue. My first son was circumized, and he never gets infections. It's like night and day. I can't imagine ever choosing to let my kid leave the hospital uncircumcised again.

[SVB]

Originally Posted by JohnScott

When the doctor offers to do the right thing, say no.

Thats very unlikely unless I go to USA. In the UK, the NHS (the national health service) won't do circumcision unless it's for a medical reason (ie. cancer of the foreskin or severe infection)
You have to bring the child to a Jewish community centre and arrange it there, becuase it's a Jewish tradition.

[LottoMagicZ4941]

LOL

Had a teacher in 5th grade who thought it was funny to ask the boys that questin.

And I think the mass majority of us were but did not know it.

So people were swearing that they weren't when they were.

[Atom]

Well... believe it or not.... that Jewish tradition became a Catholic tradition also, in the States (don't know about anywhere else). That's why my brothers and I were circumsized, we were Catholic and it was very common among Catholics .... not sure if it still is... but like I say... aesthetics is the bottom line in my opinion, not health or religious ritual.

[SVB]

Originally Posted by Atom

It is not for religious reasons, except for Jews maybe, but it really is for aesthetic reasons primarily, IMO, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. What guy wants a **** that looks like a dogs **** ..... I mean.... really ..

The reason why Americans started routine circumcision in the 1880's is to stop masturbation. This was Mr Kellogg's (of cornflakes) view, and he is the one who began this craze in the USA.

Beginning around 1870, circumcision was viewed as a way to discourage masturbation. The idea was that the less sensation a boy had in his penis, the less inclined he would be to play with himself. John Harvey Kellogg, an influential American physician (and inventor of Kellogg’s Corn Flakes) led the ensuing movement in the 1880s to have baby boys routinely circumcised. Fanatically anti-masturbation, he also recommended that girls who masturbated have their clitorises burned with acid.

He didnt lead this movement anywhere else apart from USA, whicih is why nearly every European country see's it as a pointless event and why it can only be done by the Jewish over here.

[John Scott]

I really don't see it as religious. I just know that all my kids are angels, uncircumcised or not, but I also know that uncircumcised baby boys are in for a painful babyhood.

[SVB]

Its not religious in USA anymore, its the craze that started as shown in my above post (we posted at the same time )

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by unrealfragmaster

The reason why Americans started routine circumcision in the 1880's is to stop masturbation. This was Mr Kellogg's (of cornflakes) view, and he is the one who began this craze in the USA.

He didnt lead this movement anywhere else apart from USA, whicih is why nearly every European country see's it as a pointless event and why it can only be done by the Jewish over here.

Unreal, circumcision has been popular long before Kellog was even born. It has been popular in the US and other Western countries because of religious reasons, and nobody really cares about Kellog and his obsessive masturbation. I am circumcized and I have never had a problem masturbating.

[Atom]

Hey Frag ..... 99% or more of the males you see in porn are circumsized. I can tell you that the reason for this is purely aesthetics.

IT IS SIMPLY MORE ATTRACTIVE.

[SVB]

Up until the 1880's, most non-jewish boys were not circumcised. It was really only Jews. Kellogg made it popular, simply becuase of his masturbation fetish or whatever it was lol. If there was genuine medical reasons, I would think most other countries would have this pro-circumcision view. But they dont. And the amount of boys circumcised each year has dropped in USA since 1979 and has continued to. 15-20 years is what's etsimated to bring it down to the 20% mark, like UK.

[Atom]

I give up ..

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by unrealfragmaster

He didnt lead this movement anywhere else apart from USA, whicih is why nearly every European country see's it as a pointless event and why it can only be done by the Jewish over here.

That's in error. Dr. John Harvey Kellogg opposed mastrubation, and all forms of sex. Including sex beween married couples.

It was his brother, William Kellog, who invented the cereal. Nobody took Dr Kellog's anti-sex stance to heart, and circumcision was popular before Dr Kellog and after Dr Kellog. He is only quoted on occasion by misinformed anti-circumsicion folks in order to portray circumcision and an anti-sex procedure, which we all know it isn't.