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Old 11-03-2009, 06:36 AM
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Ways to find members

Off-topic? Not really. Well, depending on the vantage point, it is off-topic for the off-topic section since my thread is concerning business. I couldn't find a better section to create my thread, therefore I apologize if this place is not the most correct place to post it.

Anyways, after my initial paragraph consisting of my apologize, I shall pose my question. Okay, what are the best ways to find members for a website?

I've been in business since 2009 May and I was mostly working on the design and coding of my website, therefore, I haven't spend much time on finding members for the website. Now, since I've finished most of the coding and designing, I am a bit lost and I don't know exactly what and how to do.

I've been thinking of promoting my first members in order to help me to build content but even that, I don't know where to start. I mean, how can I reach my potential members and tell them that I promote them? If I do that using forums, I'll probably get banned because of advertising my website. There should be another way of contacting masses rather than using forums. Anyone any ideas?

Btw, just for you to know, we have used Google adwords in order to build some traffic, but that is too costly and right now rather than visitors I need people to help me build content. Therefore, please do not suggest to advertise the website using Google or such services.

The text may look long therefore briefly, I re-pose my question: May I get your opinion on how to find members for a website? Please note, I am not trying to bring visitors to my website, I am just trying to find people to help me build content. Thank you in advance.
 
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:35 AM
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Members or visitors? What type of website do you have?
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well, it's like a forum but it's not a forum. I mean there are some topics and people are leaving their opinions under the given topic. Besides, as I said I want members that will contribute rather than visitors, because right now what I need is content, not visitors=)

@confident50; I don't believe submitting to social directories is a good idea to bring members because they work better for being crawled by search engine robots.
 
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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In my personal opinion then, the answer is going to really come down to the same ways you get people to join and contribute to a community. Moving this topic to forum management.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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In my personal opinion then, the answer is going to really come down to the same ways you get people to join and contribute to a community. Moving this topic to forum management.
Agreed. The techniques you use to recruit members is going to reflect your community. For example, if V7N staff spammed on other forums to get members to come here, the members coming would already have a bad opinion before ever registering.
 
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Thank you guys, but I would like to have more specific ideas. I know, there is no single way that is 100% certain to work but at least I want to have some basic ideas in order to continue my way. Btw CyberWizard I hope you are not referring to me with that example because first of all my website is not a forum and secondly I am not even giving my website name. I am here to learn some stuff.
 
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Who is your target audience?
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nice question. My target audience is anyone that is interested in knowing people's opinion on a given thing. For example if someone is searching for Obama, he'll see a topic on Obama and will see what people think about him or maybe a girl will search something about Victoria Secret and will come with opinions on that stuff that she is searching. Therefore, there is no single target audience. Anyone interested in opinions is considered as my audience=)
 
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Btw CyberWizard I hope you are not referring to me
It wasn't, I was just using it as an example - that's why I used the name V7N so that nobody would feel singled out
 
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It wasn't, I was just using it as an example - that's why I used the name V7N so that nobody would feel singled out
Okay then sorry for my misunderstanding=) so I still appreciate any way to find such members for my community=)
 
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Okay then sorry for my misunderstanding=) so I still appreciate any way to find such members for my community=)
You will find we are pretty friendly around here.

Let me work on some ideas for ya and I will post more later.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:12 PM
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Here is an article from TAZ:

Who is this Article for?

This article is for anyone and everyone. If you just started a new forum, this article will help you to gain members and get active. If you have a large site opened for years already, then this article may help you to find new ways to advertise your site and get even bigger. Basically, if you wish to get your site bigger, then this article will help.

Do note that some of the techniques explored below may take time and patience in not only doing them, but also before seeing any type of gain in membership.

How to Get Started

The best websites on the internet may not be the biggest websites. That is because the owner did a bad job of advertising his site to the public and getting the name out. With the right type of advertising, a website could become huge in a matter of a year.

To start, be sure you entire site is finished. This means design, concept, forums, and plenty of articles. You need tons of articles if you want the advertising any good. All the advertising in the world won’t help you if you don’t have something for the people visiting to read or view. Be absolutely sure everything is perfect (in your opinion and in others) before starting your “advertising spree” (as I call it).

Below I will break each type of advertising in different sections to help you decide which parts to read and which to skip. Let’s get started shall we?

Search Engine Advertising and Optimization

This is by far the best thing you could possibly do to gain members. People search. This is a well known fact. Having your site searchable on the biggest search engines such as Google, Yahoo, and MSN will prove to be the best thing you can possibly do.

However, search engine optimization is a huge topic that could take years of work to get its full potential. Rather than providing all of the information here, I will instead point you to various websites and provide small tips to help you get started.

If you run vBulletin and want to optimize it, then the following thread written by T2DMan will help greatly: http://forum.time2dine.co.nz/showthread.php?t=98. Do note that the optimizations made currently only work for vBulletin 3.0.X. I’m sure T2DMan will port over many of the optimizations to vBulletin 3.5 when he is ready.

Unfortunately, I currently don’t have any information on optimizing other boards. If you have information, please contact me and I will update this guide with whatever information I may find.

As far as websites go, optimizing custom sites will probably prove easier than optimizing existing software. If you have a custom built CMS or have nothing but HTML files written by yourself, things will prove to be easier than if you were to use an existing product. Why? Because you know how the code works, where to make adjustments and additions, and how to do them.

A good guide to getting started is available at Google: http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmasters/

Also, another guide exists on TAZ, available here: http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2893

The first thing you can do is submit your site to all of the various search engines. You could save this part for last until of the below is done, but usually is takes a search engine spider a few days/weeks to get started on your site, so an early submission wouldn’t hurt, just be sure to get as much of the below finished before the spiders start rolling in. I’ve found this site through Google that will automatically submit your site to many major search engines. However, I would recommend doing it manually just so you know that it was submitted for sure. Go to each major search engine, find their submission link, and add your site. For example, Google’s is located here.

Next up, choose a keyword for your website. A keyword is basically what a user will type into a search engine before your site comes up. For example, if you are running a Detroit Pistons website, then a wise keyword to use would be Detroit Pistons or Pistons Basketball or even Detroit Basketball. Making a Google search for Detroit Pistons brings up NBA.com’s page for the Pistons as the first result. The second result is the Detroit News’ Pistons page. How did they do it?

First, if you’d look at the URL, they both have Pistons in the URL. That helps to get a higher rating. Next, the title of the site is Detroit Pistons. You can change the title by editing what’s in the <title> tags of your website. Next, they say the words Detroit and Pistons hundreds of times throughout each page of their site. The more you use it, the better. In fact, the more you link to it, the better. If you have links named Detroit Pistons, this helps even more.

Finally, both sites probably have hundreds of backlinks. A backlink is when someone else (another site) links to your site. If they do so with the name Detroit Pistons than that will help even more. For example, if you ran a Detroit Pistons site and I linked to it, that will help you out when Google spiders my website. If I name the link Detroit Pistons (ie: Detroit Pistons), then it will help even more. According to Alex.com, the above site has 2,756 backlinks. That means over 2,700 sites have linked to their site. This has probably helped tremendously in getting it in the number 2 spot.

The next thing you can do is using mod_rewrite to optimize your URL’s. Search engines hate websites that don’t end with .html. They love URL’s that are descriptive and to the point. Using mod_rewite, you can change existing URL’s to something more search engine friendly.

Check out these sites to help you with that:
Apache’s mod_rewite tutorial
Sitepoint’s mod_write tutorial
Mod_rewrite cheat-sheet

Finally, another thing you can do is write your meta tags in your header to suit your keyword and what your site is about. This site may help with that.

There are plenty of other things you can do to help make your site more search engine friendly. A quick Google Search for “search engine optimization” yields tons of results, so have a look through and see what you can find.

Links, Signatures, and Affiliations

A great way of getting your name out is to link your site at as many places as possible. If you visit a forum regularly, put a link to your site in your signature. If you post comments on blogs, put a link to your site at the end of every comment. If you submit articles to various websites, link to your website within those articles or at the end of the article. Basically anywhere that you can get your name out, do so.

Once you have a base of users built up and posting, ask your users to link to your site if they go to other forums and sites. This works exceptionally well if some of your users have thousands of posts at other forums. Also ask them to make a thread or two in that forums advertising section to attract more users. Reward them too, so they feel good about doing it. Give them free points if you have a store at your forum, offer them a position on staff, send them a free t-shirt with your sites logo and url (even more free advertising), etc.

You could also do link exchanges and affiliations with other sites with similar content. For example, if you run a gaming site, ask for link exchanges and affiliations with other gaming sites. This not only helps with getting more backlinks (especially if that site has tons of spiders visiting daily), but it also helps in getting your name out there. The bigger the site, the more likely you will see a gain of members. However, don’t overdue it. Don’t link to every gaming site there is as that will just discourage other sites from linking to you. When a user sees 500 links to 500 various gaming sites, what are the changes he/she will click on yours? I would recommend not doing link exchanges with anyone that overdoes it and be sure not to overdue it yourself.

Local Advertising

A good way to get your name out locally is by placing your logo and what-not at various places in the neighborhood geared at your audience. I know this article is for free advertising but I’m going to break that rule slightly. If you have the funds, buy small cards with your site name, logo, url, and a bit of information on it. Get as many as you can afford. If you run a movies site, for example, get the cards and go to your nearest blockbusters and video stores. Place the cards near the movies section or inside the dvd/video boxes. So when someone rents a movie and opens the box, he’ll see your card inside and get interested.

You could also go to your nearest mall and put the cards on benches in front of stores dealing with your topic. Like if you run a clothing site, put your cards in front of clothing store on benches where people sit or stand. That way, they’ll see the card and be interested.

Finally, you could have friends spread the cards at various colleges and high schools (if that is your audience). Like, for example, I will be putting cards at the lunchroom where people wait in line to get food. They will see my card, pick it up, and possibly pocket it to check it out in the future. I will also be putting a few on the lunchroom tables, in the various computer labs, and near any computer/programming classes (my site is a gaming site, so most computer geeks play games, making them my audience).

In Conclusion

I hope I helped in giving you ideas for advertising and to get you started. Advertising is quite possibly the hardest thing to do for a website. Doing it right or wrong can make or break a site. Do note that all of the above is just the beginning. There are plenty more things you can do, so look out for a possible part 2 to this guide in the future with more ideas and updates to some of the above ideas.
 
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That's a great article I really appreciate it=) Btw I believe that another good thing to do is to research how successful websites achieved to be big? For example, in the beginning v7n was probably like me, no members no visitors etc etc. How did this website achieved to be such big? Any opinions?
 
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:22 AM
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If you search good for terms like the ones I list below then you may find what your looking for. By reading about others success online you can also learn how to achieve what they have.

webmaster interviews
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:57 AM
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2 words - targeted advertising

Understand your targeted audience, what they are looking for and where they are at. Is your targeted audience at myspace, facebook, youtube, college humor,,,, or somewhere else?

Then work out a promotion and advertising program designed to target the desired audience.
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That is a good point. There is a big difference between having 1000 non-target visitors as opposed to 100 targeted visitors. The 1000 will never come back. On the other hand, the 100 may all stay since they were targeted as being interested in what you have to offer.
 
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I've always been a firm believer of quality content will rule all. If you post content that others can't find on other forums, your visitors will turn to active members wanting more and more.
The way to get visitors in the first place is either with PPS (adwords) or SEO. I like to go the SEO route, but it's more of a long term deal.
Look into linkbait, see what you can post that others will naturally link back to your article.
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I've always been a firm believer of quality content will rule all. If you post content that others can't find on other forums, your visitors will turn to active members wanting more and more.
The way to get visitors in the first place is either with PPS (adwords) or SEO. I like to go the SEO route, but it's more of a long term deal.
Look into linkbait, see what you can post that others will naturally link back to your article.
If run correctly, a forum is perfect for creating quality content. Once the forum reaches a certain size there is always new, fresh content being posted that will attract search engines.
 
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The problem is that I need people to build content therefore I guess content cannot be a way to attract members. At least, for now=)
 
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The problem is that I need people to build content therefore I guess content cannot be a way to attract members. At least, for now=)
Actually, depending on the route you take, that can be a way to attract members right now. You will need to start a lot of interest content-packed topics with good titles. There are tons of article directories that don't care about you posting their articles on your forum.
 
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