Ok your page rank changed but...

wozza · 06-23-2004, 06:20 PM

did your ranking change on search engines?

Did anyone drastically jump to first place for the most popular search term? or has the dance had no effect on your search engine listings at all?

**John Scott** · 06-23-2004, 06:23 PM

Google's "Dance", where they updated PR, backlinks, and rankings at the same time, has been over for like a year now.

I suspect rankings will change for some people with big PR changes, but not at the same time of the PR update.

thebassman · 06-23-2004, 07:48 PM

Let's hope so... Pwent up again... I hope to see some good changes in the serps soon...

nmalhot · 06-23-2004, 08:53 PM

thbassman - I'm pulling for you but generally the SERPs changes happen before the PR toolbar update.

So, it is very likely anything you have done that got your PR to move up has already had its affect on your rankings.

Now - the big caveat - if you accumulated lots of backlinks in a short period of time, well then there is a theory google will devalue those for a short period ... aka "the sandbox" effect.

dave conz · 06-24-2004, 01:27 AM

Yep, my rankings and traffic went up a couple of weeks ago and then today... my first PR7! Woohoo!

**John Scott** · 06-24-2004, 01:45 AM

Congrats, Dave.

Alan30 · 06-24-2004, 01:55 AM

I hope the SERPs changes haven’t happened yet because none of mine have moved and I am expecting them to. There have been no major changes for any of the other competing sites so maybe it has not happened for me yet.

I am going to be checking the SERPs every five minutes!

sem4u · 06-24-2004, 01:57 AM

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I am going to be checking the SERPs every five minutes!

I will be doing something more constructive

Alan30 · 06-24-2004, 02:56 AM

My back links have been updated on one of my sites but I have only moved up one place!

pctechbytes · 06-24-2004, 03:36 AM

Everything went to zero on my site. I was previously a PR 5. What the???

seoguru · 06-24-2004, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nmalhot

thbassman - I'm pulling for you but generally the SERPs changes happen before the PR toolbar update.

So, it is very likely anything you have done that got your PR to move up has already had its affect on your rankings.

Now - the big caveat - if you accumulated lots of backlinks in a short period of time, well then there is a theory google will devalue those for a short period ... aka "the sandbox" effect.

Hi nmalhot, How are you.. I was expective a high rise in PR of myu new website. I had too accumulated lots of links in a short time. Sites are clean and no black hat SEO has been done... But this PR left me with just PR2.. , which I just can`t understand... Google visits the sites daily, I find a new date constantly of my pages in Google SERP.
I think this sandbox effect has really hit me..
Ok, lets assume i have been hit by this sandbox effect, will next PR has any hope for me...

Whenever i search for any of my term in allintitle, allinanchor, allinurl, allintext, I find myself occupying 1 or 2 spots in all of them, while my results are missing totally in normal SERP seraches...
Is it also due to sandbox effect, how can I recover from that...

sweatnspice · 06-24-2004, 07:21 AM

I moved up in the rankings last week and at the same time moved up in the allinanchor:keyword race, then this Tuesday my PR and Backlinks went up.

nmalhot · 06-24-2004, 12:22 PM

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Ok, lets assume i have been hit by this sandbox effect, will next PR has any hope for me...

There is a lot of debate on whether a sandbox exists, how it works, etc. I can only tell you my experience with a handfull of recent sites...

I found that my PR went up about 4-6 weeks after the backlinks were in place. For the new domains, the SERPs were completely non-existent for about 6-8 weeks total from when I put in a bunch of backlinks.

I had read on a forum that having all backlinks with the exact same anchor text will get you a SERP penalty. So, I changed a bunch of them around... seemingly supporting the theory.

But, I have since done a test where I targeted a mid level competitive term and I used only a handful of backlinks and all EXACTLY the same and I was at #7 within about 30 days. In fact, PR and backlinks did not show - but SERP placement was there. It may depend on how competitive the search phrase you are going after is.

As for PR, I am hearing a lot of people say PR is not what they expected this update. Personally, I have had no suprises with PR.

In fact, my new company/website www.ultimaterank.com is not even up but I get a few backlinks about 3 weeks ago and it came out of the gate at PR5. Gotta love that!

swapselltrade · 06-24-2004, 12:43 PM

Hey I went from 4 to 5 and business is growing leaps and bounds. Have no clue what I am doing, just tossing some mud up and she sticks

JOE

bcyber · 06-24-2004, 02:43 PM

I went from 14 to 102 in google for a page I was "attempting" to get ranked good today

But the same page moved to the number 2 spot in yahoo so I guess that's good. I'm liking yahoo because it seems all you have to do to get good rankings is load up your pages with the keyword your going for