Targetting a term

MadHatter · 06-30-2004, 04:43 PM

Ok, I am targetting the term: christian forum
in google, and I want to know what you think my chances are... I have around 2700 forum post sig links in total that I could use to my advantage.... with around 1000 above PR3...
should I go for this term with all sig links, or just some of them... and is it 'do-able?' (my site is in my sig)
The site is new, and I am waiting for a PR update
Elliot.

John Scott · 06-30-2004, 04:46 PM

I'd guess you'd need quite a few links to be #1, not so many to be top ten.

ccb056 · 06-30-2004, 08:08 PM

In google, for "Free Computer Help Forum" I come up number 5 and that is with around 400 backlinks, granted I also have a PR6, I think it would be easier with "Christian Forum".

awall19 · 06-30-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ccb056

In google, for "Free Computer Help Forum" I come up number 5 and that is with around 400 backlinks, granted I also have a PR6, I think it would be easier with "Christian Forum".

you gotta remember that it is a HUGE religion.

MadHatter · 07-01-2004, 05:17 AM

Well, just take a look at the competition.......
the top one is christianforums.com, they have about 47 links using link: and some of them say: "christian forums" "christian forum".... I don't think that is huge competition... and it is only a PR5, which is what I will be up to on next update i think...

awall19 · 07-01-2004, 06:18 AM

i am sure you can beat them because you know a ton about seo, i just guessed that there would be some decent competition there.

MadHatter · 07-01-2004, 06:25 AM

Well, that was what i thought!
but, i don't know tons about seo... just the basics, but that might be enough to get up there... I will change this sig link, and a few others, when is google next due an update? - roughly?

awall19 · 07-01-2004, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Well, that was what i thought!
but, i don't know tons about seo... just the basics,

that is the beautiful part. that is all there really is. anyone can do seo

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

when is google next due an update? - roughly?

I am going to guess 16 days, but really it could be any time. major updates are usually about once a month but is sometimes a bit eratic.

disgust · 07-01-2004, 06:45 AM

there usually isn't "decent competition" unless it's a commercial phrase.

it doesn't look that hard to target, really.

MadHatter · 07-01-2004, 07:40 AM

ok, great... I will really go for it, and then I might start optimizing for less specific terms after I have some PR to play with...
I will let you know after the next update how i got along.
Thanks guys.

thebassman · 07-01-2004, 11:09 AM

christianforums is huge, though... they have thoasands of internal pages linking back to the main page... it may be harder than you think...

crazyhorse · 07-01-2004, 11:19 AM

The internal links should that be the main targeted keywords of your main page, or can that be any kind of word as long its about your keyword. Damm im exhausted.

Just got back from running 10 kilometres. :wink:

I, Brian · 07-01-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Ok, I am targetting the term: christian forum
in google, and I want to know what you think my chances are... I have around 2700 forum post sig links in total that I could use to my advantage.... with around 1000 above PR3...
should I go for this term with all sig links, or just some of them... and is it 'do-able?' (my site is in my sig)
The site is new, and I am waiting for a PR update
Elliot.

Well...there's no harm in having a go...but I wouldn't personally put too much faith in signature links. Even if Google says that many of those sig links are PR4+, it doesn't at all tell you how those sig links will actually affect rankings. Go for it - but "christian" as a word stem is going to be pretty competitive, simply due to the sheer volume of Christian sites all linked to from other Christian sites, .edu, directories, etc, and all with years of backlinks built up.

Also - you're using IPB. Bad choice in SEO terms, as they do not index very well. You really need a hacked phpbb or a vB3 or similar to have a fighting chance. (Hey, wait a moment...am I trying to help the competition?

).

MadHatter · 07-01-2004, 02:08 PM

Thanks for the input... just one thing though....

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Also - you're using IPB. Bad choice in SEO terms, as they do not index very well. You really need a hacked phpbb or a vB3 or similar to have a fighting chance. (Hey, wait a moment...am I trying to help the competition? ).

http://forums.invisionpower.com
check out the PR of all internal pages... this uses IPB2, and then there is the new 'lofi' version that is in v2....
http://forums.invisionpower.com/lofi....php/f151.html
There is a link on everypage with 'lofi version'... which gives this crawlable option... and still keeping the PR.

I am also writing a hack to give me: http://www.i3-host.com/ctf/forum-6.html
and: http://www.i3-host.com/ctf/topic-10.html

MadHatter · 07-04-2004, 03:22 AM

well, I just found out I am no. 1 in msn for my first term!
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?F...20teen%20forum

awall19 · 07-04-2004, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

well, I just found out I am no. 1 in msn for my first term!
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?F...20teen%20forum

congrats

webmastery · 07-04-2004, 05:39 AM

See if christian-forum.com or some variant is available. Should make your life a whole lot easier

MadHatter · 07-04-2004, 11:34 AM

I am thinking of doing some branding though, so I need to wait ti'll september... you see, this is just one part of a bigger online ministry project that requires branding, and the forums need to be part of that, so the forums will probably be part of that style.... and I start my new job as a full time christian volunteer worker in september, so I will be thinking of all this more then.

seoguru · 07-04-2004, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

when is google next due an update? - roughly?

Last update dates were: May 31, June 23....
I guess this update will be something between 16 - 25 July...
Lets see.

But if you have a new site, don`t put so many forum links at once. Google won`t increase your PR much and neither will increase your rankings, get tow or three directory links. They will be going to help you a lot, and use your sig. links in next PR update.

This is just my opinion......

MadHatter · 07-05-2004, 02:48 AM

Yeah, I have got into quite a few christian directories, and im on wow.