FAQ Google PR

**juliensimon** · 12-10-2008, 02:27 PM

Google Pr is an eternal topic when it comes to questions on forums.
Here is a condensed version of some of the questions that come back over and over again with hopefully, an answer that will suit you.
Please feel free to add more Questions and Answers or add to my answers.

What is Google Page Rank?
Google PR is determined by Incoming links. Content has nothing to do with it. The perfect example would be: http://www.businessmag.mu. This website has a PR 4.
The Google PR toolbar that you see is pretty much useless. There are 2 types of people that looks at it: the people who sell links and the people who buy links. Some people say: as long as there will be people buying, I will be selling. I can’t blame them but it’s not because you can than you should. Some people are willing to buy properties on the moon so I don’t know how stupid people can get but that doesn't mean that you should take advantage of their ignorance. But that’s another debate.
You can find lots of Google Page Rank with a simple search

My Google PR is don’t to 0, why?
There could be many reasons for that – the links pointing to your site were removed, are broken. The site they are on got banned, lost PR and is not longer giving juice. Some website pointing to you inserted a “nofollow” attribute etc etc…
But the thing you should ask yourself when this happens is: “Have I lost any traffic?” 90% of the time, it’s not the case. If your traffic is steady, than do yourself a favor and turn off the PR toolbar. Your website will be just fine.

I built some links and my PR is still 0
Google updates the real PR continually. However, the little green bar that you see is updated every 2-3 months. So when the PR update happens, people expect to jump up in the SERPs. It isn’t gonna happen. The juice from the link has already been acknowledge and reflected (or not) by Google

SEO Dave · 12-10-2008, 04:10 PM

Great points Julien - many people automatically assume that a higher PR will mean top of the list in google, when it's very easy for lower PR sites to beat the higher ones. As I understand it there are a few more factors other than just backlinks (but I don't know them) although the basic principle is based around that.

also, just to pick up on Julien's point about the toolbar and real PR. I have seen one of my blogs go from 0 to 3 then 2 then 1 then 0 then 3 again in the space of 2 months. so don't take any notice of the toolbar and stick to making your site user friendly.

**juliensimon** · 12-10-2008, 04:45 PM

My Google PR is don’t to 0, why?

I meant: my Google PR is down to 0....my bad - I will proof read myself next time

@ SEO Dave: good addition to this thread.Thanks

Karunakar · 12-11-2008, 12:47 AM

Google PR is determined by Incoming links, and the keyword results is depends on the content along with the anchor text in backlinks.

So, both are important.

And another point,

Without backlinks also, u can gain PR with better user friendly designing of a web site.

So, need to consider all the factors for SEO.

**juliensimon** · 12-11-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Karunakar

Google PR is determined by Incoming links
Without backlinks also, u can gain PR with better user friendly designing of a web site.

Your first statement is right. Your second statement however contradict the first one and is wrong. you cannot gain PR without backlinks.

EverybodyGeek · 12-11-2008, 03:36 PM

PageRank is often overrated by new bloggers/webmasters.
I'm not saying pagerank isn't important, but it doesn't measure your site's success. It's only indicating that you have some high quality backlinks.

Great post on PR juliensimon!

**juliensimon** · 12-11-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EverybodyGeek

PageRank is often overrated by new bloggers/webmasters.
I'm not saying pagerank isn't important, but it doesn't measure your site's success. It's only indicating that you have some high quality backlinks.

Great post on PR juliensimon!

I couldn't agree more. My example about the businessmag website illustrates this perfectly. It's an empty website with a PR4.

lloyd.velarde@gmail. · 12-12-2008, 05:30 AM

That was a interesting post juliensimon! especially on this I built some links and my PR is still 0.

skyhook · 12-12-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by juliensimon

Your first statement is right. Your second statement however contradict the first one and is wrong. you cannot gain PR without backlinks.

this isn't necessarily true, i have a 3 year old domain which had a pr0 from the past year because it was completely blank, i started it up back in august, and in september i got a Pr1 when i had only about 2 backlinks at the time, from sites which had no real pr value.

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shakir · 12-13-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by juliensimon

My Google PR is don’t to 0, why?
There could be many reasons for that – the links pointing to your site were removed, are broken. The site they are on got banned, lost PR and is not longer giving juice. Some website pointing to you inserted a “nofollow” attribute etc etc…
But the thing you should ask yourself when this happens is: “Have I lost any traffic?” 90% of the time, it’s not the case. If your traffic is steady, than do yourself a favor and turn off the PR toolbar. Your website will be just fine.

my site is new 2 months old and have enough BL and also updating the back links weekly crawling weekly. But still PR 0 and from one forum i lost around 400 post signature. So almost back links was from it and no also BL link found in my BL list. But when search on the forum not available means broken links( inbound) . So asking you this is he reason of PR0 or I will get some PR after few months may be m in sandbox

SEO Dave · 12-14-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shakir

my site is new 2 months old and have enough BL and also updating the back links weekly crawling weekly. But still PR 0 and from one forum i lost around 400 post signature. So almost back links was from it and no also BL link found in my BL list. But when search on the forum not available means broken links( inbound) . So asking you this is he reason of PR0 or I will get some PR after few months may be m in sandbox

Shakir - perhaps a lesson to learn, in not to put all the eggs in one basket - i.e. don't rely on 400 signature posts, as google may come doen heavily on forum posts in the furture (you never know) and this would leave you out of the index if you've been relying heavily on only this (look what's happened to you now?). Just my idea anyway...

**juliensimon** · 12-18-2008, 09:13 AM

shakir, not all backlinks have the same value - sig links are good to get your site indexed but it won't help much in the rankings. Especially if the forum/blog is not related.

full house · 12-22-2008, 06:32 PM

my blog got PR 0 from PR 3 but others remain. Suddenly the backlinks got 0 in google and cache the site perfectly after updating the post, a after few minutes the post I made got index. But the result is PR 0. HATE IT! . . .

ranter · 12-22-2008, 09:07 PM

juliensimon

You should add to your FAQ the following

PR is nothing
SEPR is everything

PR is about links to your site
SEPR is about quality of your site content

and

PR will sell links
SEPR will bring visitors to buy your products

hooloo · 12-28-2008, 03:58 AM

i used to hv a PR3, last month when the hosting company did some maintenance work and the site drop dead, all traffic gone during a week, when i realize the situation then it's too late, from PR3 - PR0, lost abt 80% of traffic. Now it's climbin up i guess. does anyone know how long it take for the recover back to normal?
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theredheadknows · 12-28-2008, 04:20 AM

Great information -- thanks everyone! The Redhead

jian · 12-28-2008, 06:03 PM

PR means quality backlinks right. So building backlinks and still having pr 0 for your site needs to work for more quality backlinks.

Ravs · 12-28-2008, 07:42 PM

I believe that if you focus on your quality you'll build some links over time. I have a bunch of blogs and that's how I started getting my backlinks, quality stuff.

If you write it, they will come.

**juliensimon** · 12-29-2008, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ranter

juliensimon

You should add to your FAQ the following

PR is nothing
SEPR is everything

PR is about links to your site
SEPR is about quality of your site content

and

PR will sell links
SEPR will bring visitors to buy your products

Actually, SERP doesn't mean much either.

[B]Conversion is everything