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Old 11-05-2003, 05:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Its a fact

I don't know how your experiment is going, Phil and John, but I have an url listed in Google, that I never have submitted or linked to.

Nobody knew but me (and my Google Toolbar)
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Old 11-05-2003, 10:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I like that sort of info, Gede. What's the URL? If you post it here, or even PM it, camouflage it so that there's no possibility of spiders seeing it. In fact, it's better camouflaged in a PM if you don't mind divulging it.

My thinking is that, even though nothing has ever linked to it, it doesn't surprise me that Google would know about it and even crawl it, but it does surprise me if they include it in the index without ever having seen a link to it. Maybe the indexing is temporary until they confirm to themselves that it has no IBLs - automatically, of course. I'd be interested in its progress.
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Old 11-05-2003, 10:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2003, 10:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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what about WHOIS info, might they have access to that somehow?
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Old 11-05-2003, 10:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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For a single URL? I've assumed that it's a page on a site.
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Old 11-05-2003, 03:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Actually its a subdomain, its property. bali-information. com

Some months ago I made this and forgot all about it, until yesterday when I saw it coming up in serps
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Old 11-05-2003, 03:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thats pretty interesting how they do it. I think its from the toolbar
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hm, it really does sound like the toolbar got the site indexed. Well, that might actually be a good thing because now, you need neither IBL nor do you need to use the Add URL form if this is true.
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Old 11-05-2003, 04:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It has a link from a site:-

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...rmation%2E+com

So much for that theory
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Old 11-05-2003, 04:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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hm, that throws that theory out the window. But I'm still curious if google ads sites that have only been visited by users using the toolbar, without any links to that site.
If they want to include all sites in their search results, they technically should include all sites, also the ones that don't have links to them.
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Old 11-05-2003, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You can have a site in the index that doesn't have any links to it. It's pages that matter, and internal links count as links for each page within the site. I can't say that I've ever seen a site like that but I've heard of it happening and I see no reason for it not to happen with Google's system.
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Old 11-05-2003, 07:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You made a typo Phil

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

^ this the right url to search for it...

Some spaces where they should'nt be. The site is not linked !
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property. bali-information .com/ bali_property.php?i=57&pn=1

That looks sweet for only $140,000! I might buy a vacation house by you Gede!
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Old 11-05-2003, 07:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You are welcome Pimpen !!!

You want a satelite (or microwave in this area) Internet connection with it ?

An option for people that make enough money on the net, so they can live here
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Old 11-05-2003, 07:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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lol if I get a vacation house there, you can count on it!!! Those are good prices man, why so cheap?
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Old 11-06-2003, 12:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Oops! It wasn't a type - 'twas a copy & paste from your camouflaged URL
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Yes it does, but we haven't yet had definitive evidence that Google saves the URLs for spidering. So this evidence is worth having. In fact we could do with quite a few cases of it.
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