Links idea

hurricane_sh · 07-30-2004, 05:09 AM

Occasionally I got some very good one-way links or websites to build easy links, this gave me an idea: if there is a small group(less than 10 people) devoted to sharing links, this will make links building much easier.

According to my quite limited SEO knowledge, links building is the most important factor if it's not everything, a small group is definitely much better than a single person.
About the group:
1. Should be very limited, no more than 10 people, otherwise will hurt the links.
2. Better has similiar interest, at least don't have some special websites(adult, casino, loan, etc.)
3. Can setup a private forum to do this.

How do you think?

awall19 · 07-30-2004, 05:22 AM

I do not think the small group idea works because inevitably you will have a few rats join in. also I would not want to give 10 people all my ideas everywhere.

unless there was a strong vested interest in seeing the other persons site succeed you can just about bank on getting short changed.

I, Brian · 07-30-2004, 05:42 AM

another problem with the idea is that, so far as I understand it, this would effectively be a links farm - and may set the entire group up for possible penatlies.

hurricane_sh · 07-30-2004, 06:03 AM

Ok, it seems to be not applicable, it's really difficult to find other people like yourself. Someone may be rats, someone may have hundreds of websites to work on, Someone may only spend little time looking for links, etc. which makes the sharing unfair.

Sometimes when I got a PR 6 one-way link, I was eager to share with someone , it doesn't hurt my link, if I can get something back, it's even better

awall19 · 07-30-2004, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hurricane_sh

Ok, it seems to be not applicable, it's really difficult to find other people like yourself. Someone may be rats, someone may have hundreds of websites to work on, Someone may only spend little time looking for links, etc. which makes the sharing unfair.

Sometimes when I got a PR 6 one-way link, I was eager to share with someone , it doesn't hurt my link, if I can get something back, it's even better

feel free to link into my site wherever you see fit

hurricane_sh · 07-30-2004, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

another problem with the idea is that, so far as I understand it, this would effectively be a links farm - and may set the entire group up for possible penatlies.

If so, your link building service must be more effective to be a link farm.

I, Brian · 07-30-2004, 10:12 AM

My link building service has nothing to do with link farms. One reason why it can be very effective.

hurricane_sh · 07-30-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

My link building service has nothing to do with link farms. One reason why it can be very effective.

If a link used by 10 people is effecitive to be a link farm, it's ony more effective if it's used by several dozens customers, although I doubt you can get so many customers.

I, Brian · 07-30-2004, 10:22 AM

I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make - a link farm is a group of sites that are purposefully cross-linking.

Link building in itself is simply about getting links in a targeted manner to act in a targeted way.

As for my own client list - it's quite a few dozens, actually. The latest was building the site for doreo hosting:

www.doreo.com

Doreo are the people who host phpbb.com.

hurricane_sh · 07-30-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make - a link farm is a group of sites that are purposefully cross-linking.

Link building in itself is simply about getting links in a targeted manner to act in a targeted way.

As for my own client list - it's quite a few dozens, actually. The latest was building the site for doreo hosting:

www.doreo.com

Doreo are the people who host phpbb.com.

Ok, I see now, you didn't read or understand my original post. I suggest you read the post before you reply. This suggestion is also to another person who replied my post without reading, What's the point to make a reply if you don't understand the questions? spamming?

Anyway, here is my links idea again:
Build a small group to share links, not cross link with each other.

I, Brian · 07-30-2004, 10:43 AM

Hurricane, if you want people to reply sensibly to your posts, you could do well to follow the following suggestions:

1. try and clearly state your questions, so that other people can easily understand what you are actually talking about,
2. not become abusive to people simply for replying.

You run a German site, so I can appreciate that English may not be your first language. Perhaps it would therefore be wise to be a little more patient if people do not understand entirely what you mean.

Now, perhaps if we can start again, and you can explain what you mean by "sharing" links, perhaps we can proceed.

If, however, you would rather continue with an attitude then you are welcome to answer your own threads yourself.

hurricane_sh · 07-30-2004, 11:13 AM

I didn't realize my English is so bad until now, if anyone elso here (except you) can't understand my idea after reading the post, I would stop posting here, it makes no sense to post bullshit with lots of time.

arius · 07-31-2004, 08:06 PM

This is kind of off topic Hurricane, but have you thought of using Google's Advanced Language Tools to translate your German Pages to English and then submitting them to English Search Engines.

I know that the translation would not be perfect but it might save a lot of time in a transaltion effort and get you double exposure.

Is that a good idea or what?

awall19 · 07-31-2004, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by arius

Is that a good idea or what?

or what.

it would likely offend people to read broken text. just imagine how low the conversion rate would be with shoddy machine translated text throughout your site.

arius · 08-01-2004, 06:44 AM

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it would likely offend people to read broken text

I know, I know. I just meant that you could have Google do the initial work and then get a fluent English speaking proof reader to tidy things up.
I just think that Google Language Tools could get him started for free and get him 80% of the way there.

Back to you.

PaulHarris · 08-01-2004, 08:01 AM

When i had to translate from german to english i tried all the translation tools, I finally got a german / english speaker on a forum to read through them all and he had trouble trying to figure out what the translations actually meant. He ended up just translating it all direct from the german copy himself.... shows how good they are.

It is a good idea.... but i think they need to come on somewhat with the translation tools before this will work.

eCommando · 08-02-2004, 04:45 PM

Regarding your LINK BUILDING info in the signature:

What kind of PR do those links have?

awall19 · 08-02-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eCommando

Regarding your LINK BUILDING info in the signature:

What kind of PR do those links have?

I believe Brian is offering a linking service to get many low PR links.

I, Brian · 08-03-2004, 08:28 AM

I don't link build for PR - just anchor text. I absolutely refuse to deal in PR because it's inviting Google to devalue the link building.

awall19 · 08-03-2004, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

I don't link build for PR - just anchor text. I absolutely refuse to deal in PR because it's inviting Google to devalue the link building.

plus pagerank just for the sake of pagerank is expensive and wasteful. a few good links and many many small links with the proper anchor text add up over time.