Webmaster Forum


Go Back   Webmaster Forum > Marketing Forums > Google Forum
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Google Forum Discuss Google related issues.

Bidding Directory   ClickBooth Network   V7N Directory

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-19-2004, 03:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
Contributing Member
 
clasione's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-26-04
Location: NEW YORK USA - THE CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS
Posts: 271
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

clasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebody
Send a message via MSN to clasione
Remove your Google Toolbar

Remove your Google Toolbar

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have been a fan of the Google toolbar for a long time...

But I'm the first one to except the uninstallation of my toolbar....

Upon download, your Google toolbar discusses that fact that with it's advanced features enabled, (PR bar, Direcotry Tabs) that information about the sites you visit will be sent to Google and used to modify there search technology....

I don't like anyone having information about anything I do, but for the use of the Google toolbar, it's worth it...

Google is trying to get everyone to:

1 - stop focusing on Pagerank....
2 - stop buying links based on PR
3 - stop selling THEIR pr on your site...

Google wins:
Toolbar anvanced features enabled...
Their still watching you while your watching nothing...

----

I am uninstalling my toolbar because:
Serps display url's of sites that are gray
Serps display url's of sites that are white
Serps display url's of sites that are any PR



Google has won.....
They have made us THINK that PR doesn't matter by simply making it NOT MATTER....

But I'm uninstalling the toolbar......

Don't let them fool you - PR isn't going anywhere for good....
They just wan't us to think so.....

I'll re-install - when they're offering something in return....
__________________
Long Island's Largest Online Publication
Long Island Exchange ® Inc. by Searchen Networks ® Inc.
clasione is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
SEO Hosting by HostGator  Advertise Here  Buy Blog Links
Old 08-19-2004, 03:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
Inactive
 
Join Date: 05-05-04
Location: america
Posts: 653
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

realestate is liked by somebodyrealestate is liked by somebodyrealestate is liked by somebodyrealestate is liked by somebodyrealestate is liked by somebody
Yes, privacy is important if you want to take advantage of seo. It is difficult to make money without doing any business or anything illegal. Running a directory seems to work, but seems to require enormous amount of time to spend.
realestate is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2004, 03:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
Inactive
 
Join Date: 10-20-03
Location: United Kingdom, London
Posts: 2,207
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

UKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really niceUKZJ007 is just really nice
Haha, Someones in phase 1 of anger - Denial and jumping straight to last step - action.
UKZJ007 is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2004, 01:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
Inactive
 
I, Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-26-03
Posts: 2,466
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

I, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebody
Just uninstall it if you hate the fact that people are making you jump through hoops to provide free marketing research for billion dollar corporations - and all just so you can look at a little green line.

Never tried installing any toolbars on Firefox.
I, Brian is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2004, 02:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
Inactive
 
Join Date: 08-06-04
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 137
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Dominic is liked by somebodyDominic is liked by somebodyDominic is liked by somebodyDominic is liked by somebodyDominic is liked by somebody
Fair enough to uninstall.

The reason why PR and other online checking tools are so addictive is for many webmasters outcomes from your site are limited or incremental. So the feedback or positive reinforcement you get from seeing the little green bar increase or serps improve a tiny bit or backlinks increase are like throwing a bone to a hungry dog.

Personally I'm going to leave it installed because I use the search box and search site functions very heavily. (addict)

I don't know if the deskbar records info but that may be an alternative if you want to keep search.
Dominic is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2004, 04:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
Inactive
 
Join Date: 08-02-04
Posts: 68
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

tommy2tone is liked by many
I'm uninstalling! Viva la causa!
tommy2tone is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2004, 08:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
Inactive
 
Runilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-09-04
Location: Faroe Islands
Posts: 145
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Runilo is on the right pathRunilo is on the right pathRunilo is on the right path
That information was given upon installation of the toolbar.

I had the option of choosing yes or no if i wanted to send them information
Runilo is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2004, 10:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
Contributing Member
 
clasione's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-26-04
Location: NEW YORK USA - THE CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS
Posts: 271
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

clasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebodyclasione is liked by somebody
Send a message via MSN to clasione
They say if you turn off the pagerank and direcotry tab - it doesn't record the sites you visit.....

They say???
__________________
Long Island's Largest Online Publication
Long Island Exchange ® Inc. by Searchen Networks ® Inc.
clasione is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 12:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
v7n Mentor
 
sem4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-22-03
Location: UK
Posts: 1,912
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

sem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to behold
I am sure that it was true. By enabling the advanced features I knew what I was allowing Google to do.
sem4u is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 01:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
Inactive
 
Join Date: 06-09-04
Posts: 223
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

seoguru is liked by many
Google wa previously spying on computers through its toolbar now its even spying on mails through Gmail.

Google is going to be another Microsoft, might be even bigger.
seoguru is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 02:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
v7n Mentor
 
sem4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-22-03
Location: UK
Posts: 1,912
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

sem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to beholdsem4u is a splendid one to behold
Google only matches ads up to the content of the emails. If you don't like the TOS then don't sign up. It really is as simple as that!
sem4u is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 04:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
Jim
Inactive
 
Jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-05-04
Location: İstanbul
Posts: 362
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Jim is on the right pathJim is on the right path
Quote:
Originally Posted by seoguru
Google wa previously spying on computers through its toolbar now its even spying on mails through Gmail.

Google is going to be another Microsoft, might be even bigger.
They just bring adds matching the content of your email with an automated code. Nobody is reading your emails.
Jim is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 04:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
SVB
Inactive
 
SVB's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Posts: 7,481
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

SVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest orderSVB is a web professional of the highest order
Send a message via Yahoo to SVB
Yeah do you think that some multi billion dollar company is reading every one of the thousands of emails sent all the time on gmail? Its just a piece of code that looks for keywords in your email. Not all emails have ads, you have to have a keyword that is in an ad registered with the service.
SVB is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 09:25 AM   #14 (permalink)
Contributing Member
 
Pimpen 2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Location: Pffffft
Posts: 8,857
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Pimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nice
Send a message via AIM to Pimpen 2010 Send a message via Yahoo to Pimpen 2010
So hold on, why are people uninstlling the Google Toolbar? It looks at sites you visit? Or what...?
__________________
Hummer Forums
Trick It Out
Pimpen 2010 is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 09:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
Jim
Inactive
 
Jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-05-04
Location: İstanbul
Posts: 362
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Jim is on the right pathJim is on the right path
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimpen 2010
So hold on, why are people uninstlling the Google Toolbar? It looks at sites you visit? Or what...?
It's about PR losing its importance. i.e. I use Google Toolbar just to check PR of the sites. My sites and the others... If PR becomes useless then why to use the toolbar?
I'll wait and see if PR really becomes useless or not. If it does, I don't think I'll hesitate uninstalling it.
Jim is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 10:40 AM   #16 (permalink)
Contributing Member
 
Pimpen 2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Location: Pffffft
Posts: 8,857
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Pimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nice
Send a message via AIM to Pimpen 2010 Send a message via Yahoo to Pimpen 2010
So people are uninstalling the toolbar becuase they think PR won't update again?
__________________
Hummer Forums
Trick It Out
Pimpen 2010 is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 10:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
Inactive
 
I, Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-26-03
Posts: 2,466
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

I, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebodyI, Brian is liked by somebody
Interesting article

http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html
I, Brian is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 11:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
Jim
Inactive
 
Jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-05-04
Location: İstanbul
Posts: 362
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Jim is on the right pathJim is on the right path
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimpen 2010
So people are uninstalling the toolbar becuase they think PR won't update again?
No, even if it gets updated, they think that SERPs have nothing to do with PR anymore. And I think PR is so over-rated that some people miss the real picture. Who really cares about a PR7 site if Google doesn't direct a good traffic to that site?
One of the points that clasione states is, PR != SERPs, hence PR != more traffic anymore. Please correct me if I'm thinking wrong though.
Jim is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 02:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
Contributing Member
 
Pimpen 2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Location: Pffffft
Posts: 8,857
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

Pimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nicePimpen 2010 is just really nice
Send a message via AIM to Pimpen 2010 Send a message via Yahoo to Pimpen 2010
I thought PR never matters what you rank on SE's?
__________________
Hummer Forums
Trick It Out
Pimpen 2010 is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2004, 04:13 PM   #20 (permalink)
Inactive
 
arius's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-09-04
Location: Toronto Area
Posts: 182
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Latest Blog:
None

arius is liked by somebodyarius is liked by somebodyarius is liked by somebodyarius is liked by somebodyarius is liked by somebody
Why not switch browsers. Get Mozilla Firefox. Add their GoogleBar extension. Get the PR display without getting spied on.

Acutally, I guess they will still be spying on you if they log your queries:

A typical Page Rank request looks like:
http://toolbarqueries.google.ca/sear...2Emsn%2Ecom%2F

They'll know what site you were going to based on that.
They'd have your IP Address as well.
I guess you could use a free proxy service to surf privately if you were really concerned. You just expand your circle of trust to include the Proxy Service people though.
arius is offline  
Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Go Back   Webmaster Forum > Marketing Forums > Google Forum

Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to remove SPAM sites from SERP of Google? gunjanp Google Forum 7 02-13-2008 06:09 PM
How to remove your content from the Google coolslko Google Forum 4 02-11-2008 05:08 AM
Google about to remove the PR score? Trapped Google Forum 9 08-13-2007 01:53 AM
how do I remove the bad remarks from google. Neila Computers & Internet 7 04-28-2006 03:23 PM
Google Toolbar BETA for the toolbar-lovers Ferre Google Forum 14 02-16-2006 01:31 PM


Sponsor Links
Get exposure! Get exposure! Find Scripts Web Hosting Directory Get exposure! SEO Blog


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:17 PM.
© Copyright 2008 V7 Inc