Crazy Indexing

[alter-ego]

OK maybe it's just me having acid flashbacks or is someone at google on crack when it comes to article indexing?

Like I'm sure most of you do, I monitor the performance of my article content because while I enjoy writing just for the sake of writing, I'd still like to see some sort of benefit to my site as well via targeted traffic. For the most part a lot of my latest content has been indexing rather well but in an odd kind of way.

What happens is I'll publish an article and review it a number of times live to make sure its engaging for my readers (or at least what I think is engaging) and after another handful of quick edits I'll leave it alone to rest on its own merits.

More often than not, google has it indexed anywhere from page 1 - 3 for my targeted keyword phrase/phrases within a few days which I'm happy about. I get even happier as days go by because I usually get to see the article continue to climb and hit page one somewhere between 1 - 10.

Once I reach page 1 however, my article mysteriously disappears not just off the front pages, but from google entirely. I can type in the exact keyphrase in google along with my sitename and the only results that return are some oddly indexed mumbo jumbo that just happens to have 3 of the 4 words I'm looking for and usually out of my forums.

Fast forward into the future between 2 - 3 weeks and tada, I'm back on page 1 but usually higher than before and usually this is a pretty stable listing.

Now if you've read this far don't get me wrong as I'm NOT complaining. I just find it odd I can have such quick results that only disappear only to resurface later.

Has anyone else had similar issues or is this a sign that it's time for me to give up webmastering and take up knitting or something?

Thanks for reading.

Ken

BTW, I choose to spell webmastering with a small w because I have a long way to go before I deserve a capital "W".

[webron]

This kind of situation happens all the time at Big G serps. In my experience, it happens as always on my blog post. Usually when big G crawls my blog post, they will ranked it high on the serps for my targeted keyword. And after few days, usually 1 week, it will vanish, it was still indexed yet unranked.

[lenesyn]

Originally Posted by webron

This kind of situation happens all the time at Big G serps. In my experience, it happens as always on my blog post. Usually when big G crawls my blog post, they will ranked it high on the serps for my targeted keyword. And after few days, usually 1 week, it will vanish, it was still indexed yet unranked.

You might have experience google dance.. Google is updating all the informations or data that google has.. That's why you are experiencing the rise and fall of your rankings.. On what I have read, it takes two to three days after the google has finish all the updates..

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by lenesyn

You might have experience google dance.. Google is updating all the informations or data that google has.. That's why you are experiencing the rise and fall of your rankings.. On what I have read, it takes two to three days after the google has finish all the updates..

I can tell you for a fact that as the thread starter this situation I've noticed has nothing to do with google dancing (assuming you mean PR updating). This is an ongoing phenomenon with virtually all of my newly published content regardless of where it ends up on my site.

[P.O.S.]

No, don't quit now! LOL Why quit if you know you're good at it
Anyway, as most webmasters will tell you, newly created pages/or posts for blogs have high chance of hitting page 1 in SERP. But after a week or so it'll suddenly drop, get back up but the result isn't the same with the first one. That's why link building is important

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by P.O.S.

No, don't quit now! LOL Why quit if you know you're good at it
Anyway, as most webmasters will tell you, newly created pages/or posts for blogs have high chance of hitting page 1 in SERP. But after a week or so it'll suddenly drop, get back up but the result isn't the same with the first one. That's why link building is important

lol nice response.

Honestly I've never heard this before now so although I already felt fine this does help to validate my personal findings and add to my own pitiful knowledge base.

Just out of curiosity though, do all the SE's work like this or is it primarily a google thing? So far I've only personally noticed this with google because the other Engines seem to take longer to actually publish my articles.

[atlantadentalcenter]

Originally Posted by alter-ego

Just out of curiosity though, do all the SE's work like this or is it primarily a google thing?

It's primary a Google thing. Some people have give it a name - "Sandbox" or the Sandbox effect. Typically thought they are speaking of a whole website (a brand new website) when this happens.

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by atlantadentalcenter

It's primary a Google thing. Some people have give it a name - "Sandbox" or the Sandbox effect. Typically thought they are speaking of a whole website (a brand new website) when this happens.

Ya I've heard of "Sandbox", "being sandboxed", "Sandbox effect" and other incarnations but I always thought that was a site wide thing (as you mentioned), not an article thing.

...anyway, its good to finally come to an understanding of why it's happening so I finally put a check mark next to this line in my SEO Index of stupid questions.

[P.O.S.]

Originally Posted by alter-ego

lol nice response.

Honestly I've never heard this before now so although I already felt fine this does help to validate my personal findings and add to my own pitiful knowledge base.

Just out of curiosity though, do all the SE's work like this or is it primarily a google thing? So far I've only personally noticed this with google because the other Engines seem to take longer to actually publish my articles.

Based on my observation and experience, it only happens on Google. On Yahoo, it takes me weeks and sometimes months to get a newly created page to show up on SERP. But once it appears on Yahoo SERP it stays there and go higher through constant link building. Every SE has their own algorithm that's why their SERP is not exactly the same.

[www.GameFriends.com]

Interesting case studies/observations. Could it be perhaps that too many instances of the same article are floating around and G handles it like duplicate content and removes it from their index?

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by www.GameFriends.com

Interesting case studies/observations. Could it be perhaps that too many instances of the same article are floating around and G handles it like duplicate content and removes it from their index?

I don't believe this is the case in my situation because I've never plagiarized a thing; I think it's nefarious, low and completely disrespectful to the original author.

If I do pick up a quote from a source article I will make it both obvious it's a quote from an outside source by mentioning so in my article and linking to the source.

In other words I don't follow, I lead.

[kbeus21]

You really track your articles? I find this a bit interesting usually I submit 5-10 daily so monitoring the position of each one would probably take more time than the actual writing. That is strange though how they index them.

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by kbeus21

You really track your articles? I find this a bit interesting usually I submit 5-10 daily so monitoring the position of each one would probably take more time than the actual writing. That is strange though how they index them.

This works perfectly for tracking a good portion of my articles: http://www.mikes-marketing-tools.com/ranking-reports/

If I don't see my newly created article using that tool then I'll revisit it and either add more content or edit the nomenclature to try and hit top 50 in at least one of the SE's. If I still can't reach top 50 after another week it's one more edit and then the article is left alone. Usually this process helps me improve my content tremendously so for me anyway, it's an invaluable tool.

[thegetpr]

google has many datacenters , thats why you see some times keyword up and down in search result.

[Jonathan_Hue]

I agree. You'll see different results with different data centers (although minor). Remember, consistency and quality link building will ensure top consistent rankings.

[alter-ego]

Originally Posted by Jonathan_Hue

Remember, consistency and quality link building will ensure top consistent rankings.

If this is referring to article placement in the SERPS then I disagree, unless maybe there's some correlation between internal linking structure I don't yet understand.

I do not believe that my articles index any higher or lower whether their linked to or not off site but as stated above, maybe on site is a different story?

[bermuda]

The point about temporary ranking boost for the newly created pages could be true to some extent and the same idea applies to the recently launched sites before getting in the Sandbox.

[GBit]

Don't worry about ranking just create and submit articles, results will automatically flashback.

[potchie]

This was also happened to me. And I think this is normal