Sandbox

MacroChap · 09-01-2004, 01:02 AM

Assumption:
new external inbound links to your site are "sandboxed" so you do not feel the full benefit of their "vote" for (i.e.) 3 months, to stop greedy and lazy people (like me) trying to buy their way to the top of google in a relatively short period.

Question:
does anybody have a feel for what happens to an external inbound link if you take it down for (i.e.) 1 week, 1 month, 1 decade... and then put it back up. Are you subject to the same "sandboxing" process again?

awall19 · 09-01-2004, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacroChap

Assumption:
new external inbound links to your site are "sandboxed" so you do not feel the full benefit of their "vote" for (i.e.) 3 months, to stop greedy and lazy people (like me) trying to buy their way to the top of google in a relatively short period.

Question:
does anybody have a feel for what happens to an external inbound link if you take it down for (i.e.) 1 week, 1 month, 1 decade... and then put it back up. Are you subject to the same "sandboxing" process again?

hosts occasionally go down, so I think short durations probably do not matter much. longer ones likely do. I have not studied the particular effect though.

nextGoal100kVisitors · 09-01-2004, 01:53 AM

It was nothing more than accidental, but I know that one site that provided a back link to my site was down for over a week(this happened in early August). The site came back up and back link was updated shortly after that. I saw back link still stayed there like nothing happened. I cannot tell you what would happen if the site that provides a back link(s) to your site is down for over a month because ... I never experienced.

UKZJ007 · 09-01-2004, 02:27 AM

Has negative rankings (1 month), I couldn't afford to keep some of my backlinks and therefore I slipped down the ranks.

I, Brian · 09-01-2004, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacroChap

Assumption:
new external inbound links to your site are "sandboxed" so you do not feel the full benefit of their "vote" for (i.e.) 3 months, to stop greedy and lazy people (like me) trying to buy their way to the top of google in a relatively short period.

Question:
does anybody have a feel for what happens to an external inbound link if you take it down for (i.e.) 1 week, 1 month, 1 decade... and then put it back up. Are you subject to the same "sandboxing" process again?

I'd shy on the side of caution if the links are important - there remains the possible danger that links could be sandboxed simply for changing any part of their parameter.

Ideally, links should be static and pretty permanent - but it doesn;t mean to say you won't get results by taking risks.

MacroChap · 09-01-2004, 06:32 AM

Yeah, thanks for the replies guys.
Probably quite an easy (although horribly lengthy) thing to test. Would be useful to know for all those idiots (

) who spend money on links month after month (hypocritical whistle).
(If I hadn't made it clear earlier, I meant take the links down, not the site - I suspect the latter may have a less desirable effect on my sales figures).

Part Two:
Does anybody reckon that if I changed the url path of a link (though not the domain), would the link be sandboxed again? I,Brian suggests that changing any of the parameters may have this effect.
(p.s. This will be happening to one of my sites very shortly, I will let you know the results when I can interpret them - if you're interested that is.)

I, Brian · 09-01-2004, 03:40 PM

John Scott reported earlier that simply using a 301 redirect from IMR to v7n lost him his ranking for "internet marketing research" - ranked 1st before, then 95th.

One perception of that is that at least some links to v7n have been sandboxed - because they are now effectively pointing to a different site, and are therefore classed as "new links". Even just from a 301 redirect.

But it's so hard to make any really authoritative statement on the matter.

MacroChap · 09-01-2004, 11:10 PM

yeah, I certainly know what you mean. Thanks for your responses.