Google A Worthless Search Engine

[chrisranjana.com]

Yes correct yours may be a 100 year old institution but if your web pages are not optimized etc then search results may not bring up your pages.

[Tankerdog2002]

OK........Trev and Sundancerz get out the party hats and noise makers because I'm about to capitulate.

So; I thought about what you both had to say and then I went Googling.

I found some 'Gurgle tools such as the site flavored search and some of the other 'Gurgle tools and I actually think that they might make a difference. (I still can't stop using that word 'Gurgle especially after the pic that FERRE posted.)

So, without further ado, I'm going to once again try to get some SERP's with Google.

Hey......at least I'm going into this with an open mind now.

I'm still not getting the search results like on the other engines but I'll try sundancerz advice on refining search terms and we'll see what happens.

I would deny that I ever said any of this except it's in print now and I'm branded. (Snicker, snicker)


Tamed up Tankerdog

PS: Please don't beat me up too bad with comebacks. (Hee he he he he)

[Rev Lee]

TinaDog

All that being said did you experiance a big difference in traffic than you had before. Be honest, it's important I know for sure.

Thanks

Rev Lee

[DRG]

Trev and Sundancerz,

Sorry I haven't got back and posted sooner but I've been inudated with running my own business and a household.

We took you're advice on the site and are making changes on the tags as you suggested.

Oh....yeah....No, I don't get paid any cash for the webpage. It's a charity so I do it for free. (See what you get for free? LOL)

Trev---Site-studio is one of those "choose a template" and then fill in whatever you want, kind of editors. It's Linux based and not always up to snuff, so to speak.
I like Linux, just not how they use it in the Site-studio software. Lots of bugs.

Thanks for all of you help and if you pros have anything else to add; well, we are all ears.

Kind Regards,
Ron

[DRG]

Sundancerz,

Thanks for the tip on the book. I purchased it. Can't wait for it to get here.

Ron

[DRG]

I placed the Google site flavored search on my website and within three or fours day I was totally a ghost regarding other search engines.

I'm serious.....I ran a ranking check a few days later and came up "Zilch"..."Nothing"....."Nada"....on everything. I virtually disappeared from the web. And I'm still invisible on Google even though I've gone through all their Google friendly site advice. My company name comes up on page one but none of my keyword searches even show within the first 1000 pages of Google. I haven't paid them a dime, maybe that’s the problem.

Anyway.....has anyone else experienced this? I put up their search box and all the other spiders nixed me.

I removed the Google Search from all of my pages and my ranking went back to normal within a few days.

I don't like that. Google has pissed me off. I tried to follow their advice......and I got screwed. I'm not an expert but I don't like being penalized by following Google's advice.

I'm beginning to think that Ferre and Tank is right. "GURGLE"

[trevHCS]

I placed the Google site flavored search on my website...

Do you mean you put the Google search box on your site?

And I'm still invisible on Google even though I've gone through all their Google friendly site advice.

I can't remember what that says really, although I'd suspect it's pretty limited. There is an awful lot written about how to do well on search engines and a vast amount of it will be in this forum. Probably a lot more useful stuff as well than many books as an awful lot of those are criminally useless.

- First thing that needs fixing is the title tags, ie: <title> to </title> as they currently just say "welcome" or "mission statement". That isn't going to tell Google much about your site so I'd suggesting adding "Oilfield Helping Hands" to each. Eg:

Welcome to Oilfield Helping Hands
Mission Statement of Oilfield Helping Hands

...etc. That at least gives you a much bigger chance to get the attention of Google and the other search engines.

- Secondly, really you need more text on the pages. Google and co. don't care much about images, so you ideally need to have a paragraph or two about what the charity is and what it does. Doesn't need to be an essay, but it would also help users of the site.

- Thirdly, do you have any control over the actual HTML code? It's just when I looked in the pages I have to get to line 1576 before we get to anything useful and that might put off some bots like Google's (possibly).

- Forthly, you need links and lots of them. Google at heart works on ranking sites depending on how many people are linking to that site. There are 1000's of directories and other smaller search engines out there who will link to you, often for free. It takes a bit of time unfortunately as you really need to add to each manually, but if you search for "business directories" you should find some to start with.

- Fifth on the list...time. Getting in the search engines isn't something that can happen overnight but once you get there it can be worthwhile.

My company name comes up on page one but none of my keyword searches even show within the first 1000 pages of Google.

That's actually significant progress as previously even that didn't work. As for the other keywords, what were they? And do they work on engines like lycos.com and MSN.com?

Anyway.....has anyone else experienced this? I put up their search box and all the other spiders nixed me.

Which other search engines did your rankings disappear on? It would seem like a self-defeating excersise for another engine to drop you when you added a Google search box as they nobody gains from it, least of all the other search engines.

On sites like our AardvarkBusiness.net directory we have Google search boxes and as far as I'm aware we're still listed in the other large search engines especially going by the amount of spidering they do.

I don't like that. Google has pissed me off. I tried to follow their advice......and I got screwed. I'm not an expert but I don't like being penalized by following Google's advice.

Where abouts on the Google site does it suggest adding this? I had a look through their "submitting to google" section and webmaster guidelines and couldn't see anything about suggesting adding their search box.

If these other engines did for some reason drop you for providing Google search then you should be p*ssed off with them for being so daft. Nothing Google can do about it and I doubt they'd even know about it if that happened.


By the looks of things Google has found you now, but there's still work to do to get you up the rankings.

Trev