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07-05-2009, 07:16 PM
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Why the keywords position not stabilization?
These days I check my keywords position on google,i found that it is not stabilization,sometimes i can find it on page 2,but sometimes it is out of 10 pages,so what should i do ?Build much more backlinks? 
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07-05-2009, 09:02 PM
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If your site is any less then 1 year old, do not expect stable rankings. And that is just the way it is.
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07-07-2009, 03:58 AM
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If your site is any less then 1 year old, do not expect stable rankings. And that is just the way it is.
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Any specific reason behind it Kev? Its all about the fluctuation which can be because of DCs update for the site or the BLs shortage but how the domain age?
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07-07-2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mit
Any specific reason behind it Kev? Its all about the fluctuation which can be because of DCs update for the site or the BLs shortage but how the domain age?
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Some people call it the google sandbox. I think its googles response to Domain Kiting.
Domain Kiting is when a spammer will buy a domain name, setup a page, and then ask for a refund from the registrar. The registrar has to give a 5 day grace period. So on the 4th day the person can ask for a refund, then its a couple of more days before the domain name is released. As soon as the money is refunded and the name released, the same spammer buys it again, waits 4 days, ask for a refund,,,,,,, so that the name is never fully registered.
Its a way for spammers to test out the domain name for a few weeks to see if they are going to make any money. If the site does not get instant traffic and clicks, they move to the next domain name. Kite the next name for a couple of weeks, move to the next domain name,,,, and so on. Until the finally find a name that gets instant traffic and clicks. They might go through hundreds of names, and only keep one.
Bob Parsons has a big write up about it on his blog back in 2006 - http://www.bobparsons.me/DomainKiting.html
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During the month of April 2006, a little more than 35 million domain names were registered. Of these names, 32.7 million were used – most again and again – but never permanently registered. These 32.7 million names were part of a scheme – a growing abuse of the domain system — one I wrote about in my last blog article. It’s an outrageous practice. I used to call it the add/drop scheme. After thinking about it, I think the name “add/drop” sanitizes the practice too much, so I’ve decided to call it something closer to what is actually taking place. The name I’ve decided upon is “domain kiting.”
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So in one month, 32,700,000 domain names were probably kited. The actual number might be a lot lower. Lets say that out of 32.7 million, only 30 million were really kited.
Its my guess that because ICANN has refused to take action on the matter, the people at google have decided to do something.
I read here recently that if a domain name is bought, released, bought, released - over and over - that the URL is removed from googles index.
When google sees a new page, is it a kited site, or a real site? Is the site there for the long haul, or is it a spammer looking for a quick buck?
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07-09-2009, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ~kev~
If your site is any less then 1 year old, do not expect stable rankings. And that is just the way it is.
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Well its same happening with my 6 year old site Too? So ??? i'm really get sick from Google
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07-06-2009, 12:25 AM
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that's where the competition happens.. that's normal.. promote and build more quality links to your site to maintain rankings..
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07-06-2009, 01:53 AM
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If your site is relatively new, such fluctuation is normal.
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07-06-2009, 03:19 AM
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You don't have to stop optimizing your site try to maintain it as much as possible you have to find another way to update your knowledge technique.
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07-06-2009, 03:32 AM
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Many factors may influence the position. Maybe your competitor made more quality backlinks, or your backlinks descend its value or be deleted.
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07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jingwen
These days I check my keywords position on google,i found that it is not stabilization,sometimes i can find it on page 2,but sometimes it is out of 10 pages,so what should i do ?Build much more backlinks? 
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It's keywords fluctuation, and it's very common (normal too). So yes, building more quality IBLs can really help 
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07-07-2009, 12:04 AM
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what you should do is to continue building more backlinks.
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07-07-2009, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jingwen
These days I check my keywords position on google,i found that it is not stabilization,sometimes i can find it on page 2,but sometimes it is out of 10 pages,so what should i do ? Build much more backlinks?
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Definitely! You need to build backliks but it's good if the backlinks are come from good neighborhood. Quality of backlinks matter.
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07-07-2009, 02:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jingwen
These days I check my keywords position on google,i found that it is not stabilization,sometimes i can find it on page 2,but sometimes it is out of 10 pages,so what should i do ?Build much more backlinks? 
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it is stable. not stabilization.  
Anyway, it is such a very normal thing on websites to experience this kind of thing called fluctuation. If your site is new, the more chances of you getting buried below Google's search results. The solution is to build more and more quality and relevant links to your website for more stabilization position, ohh, I mean "stable" position in the SERPs. 
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07-07-2009, 10:04 AM
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My webmaster blog has been running since 2008 and my keyword rankings are still bouncing around the ranks everyday.
Some days I'm ranked #5, the next day I can be #12 and then the next #9.
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07-07-2009, 02:29 PM
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This is the Google Dance and it takes time to get stabilize.
Keep your link building up and try to get some good incoming links from high PR web pages, that the only thing to help you.
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07-07-2009, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jingwen
These days I check my keywords position on google,i found that it is not stabilization,sometimes i can find it on page 2,but sometimes it is out of 10 pages,so what should i do ?Build much more backlinks? 
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In order to stabilize your site's ranking in SERPs, you should try to get some solid backlinks. Try to get some backlinks from relevant pages that have high PR/trust.
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07-07-2009, 05:19 PM
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Well, you should be patient about this stuff
it is normally happen for a new website.
bulid your full optimized original content and build more high quality backlink. with High PR and relevant topics.
hope it can helps you
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07-07-2009, 11:35 PM
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This kind of scenario is normal especially for new sites.
Anyway, to achieve stable SER you need to work harder on building links and optimizing your site. Do better work compare to other stabilize sites.
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07-08-2009, 01:29 AM
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One factor important in stability of the sites is the domain age which naturally is beyond the control of people and the second element is having quality one way links which will gradually fix the rankings.
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07-08-2009, 01:46 AM
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THis type of Google dancing occur for all ne site.. So to get a stabled position need SEo for at least 1 yr... And once get top 5 then only little chance of like this fluctuation
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