How to tell a link natural or unnatual?

marina · 07-08-2009, 02:47 AM

Matt Cutts said that natural link is better than un-natural.
But what's the criterion? Or how to make an un-natural link more like a natural?

micoblanco · 07-08-2009, 03:31 AM

A natural link is a link to a website or webpage that was freely given, that is, a user linked to it because he found it useful and relevant, without intervention or coercion from the owner of the website. Natural links are often the result of having good, relevant, accurate content.

marina · 07-08-2009, 03:49 AM

So the link I placed on my signature to my own site is natural. And the spammy comments with hundreds of links back to my site are also natural???

MrMean · 07-08-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by marina

So the link I placed on my signature to my own site is natural. And the spammy comments with hundreds of links back to my site are also natural???

Are you having a laugh?

**juliensimon** · 07-08-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by marina

So the link I placed on my signature to my own site is natural. And the spammy comments with hundreds of links back to my site are also natural???

a link that you built yourself is unnatural.

A link from somebody you don't know, who genuinely like your website is natural.

buttsb · 07-09-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by juliensimon

a link that you built yourself is unnatural.

A link from somebody you don't know, who genuinely like your website is natural.

and how does google know that both people don't know each other ???

maybe they convince each other in yahoo PM ???

quentin123 · 07-09-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by buttsb

and how does google know that both people don't know each other ???

maybe they convince each other in yahoo PM ???

i was wondering the exact same thing

angilina · 07-08-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by marina

Matt Cutts said that natural link is better than un-natural.
But what's the criterion? Or how to make an un-natural link more like a natural?

You add excellent content in your site. Content to which people automatically link to. For example: people link to articles in wikipedia all the time.

Such links are called natural.

I guess you cannot make a normal link natural. Natural links are built automatically thanks to great content.

baxy · 07-08-2009, 07:41 PM

If you have excellent, conceptually unique and valuable content on your site then people will link to it by them selves.

This will called as natural linking.

P.O.S. · 07-08-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by marina

Matt Cutts said that natural link is better than un-natural.

Yes it is, that's why we need to make quality content, to make other people link to us. It's not just the Google algo that measures the quality of our content, but other people (site/blog owners) too.

Copybuild · 07-09-2009, 12:19 AM

If you have a quality and useful content, there's a huge possibility that others will link to you naturally. Just create something that will benefit your visitors

Unnatural links are the one which you build thru different seo methods.

marina · 07-09-2009, 03:54 AM

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and how does google know that both people don't know each other ??? maybe they convince each other in yahoo PM ???

Agree. How does google konw the link is built by me or someone else? For example,I write an article propagating the products of my company, pretending I've nothing to do with that company,and then released on some press release portal. Then how to tell it is natural or unnatural the links in the article? Or else,how does google know whether the author is a seo????

livePR.ezer.com · 07-09-2009, 05:54 AM

I do think more like a link in an article too.

But most of time most of people will like just put the link's url within a article.

Because it is the most lazy way.

ashokkumar · 07-17-2009, 02:40 AM

Example: SEO sites providing free tools like "google page rank checker", "yahoo page rank checker", etc...

If these tools are satisfied the end user they will link it on their sites.

So do not propose and forcing to get the back link is natural link.

Ashok kumar J

bermuda · 07-17-2009, 09:00 AM

The natural links are usually added when other webmasters find an informative site or articles over the net and then using their own anchors add a link to that. The best example could be why the Wikipedia project got popular so quickly because if you look at each page of that you will find a lot of backlinks voluntarily added by webmasters.

webron · 07-17-2009, 08:30 PM

There are so many things that can be associated with the "natural linking" patterns. And yes they are right, natural linking means you don't have any involvement with the link building of your site.

michaelj72 · 07-19-2009, 07:40 AM

this does raise interesting questions in my mind. i mean exactly how does a machine/a search engine bot determine the volition and will of a person who gives a link? it must reside somehow in the patterns of these back links, how they appear over time, how many different domains are involved etc.

you see, a bot can't determine "why" - why one person/site would give a link to another site because the intention is in the mind of a person, and the bot is only reading what's on the page (or more correctly collating millions of info bits about all these sites that are connected and inter-related in many different ways) and making shall we say "assumptions" based on the 'criteria' that its human programmers have installed/programmed. has to be as I said in the patterns of linking and whether those appear to be 'natural' or artificially inflated or whatever.....just some random thoughts.

in fact it seems that most webmasters have plans and go out using various methods to obtain links and just don't sit around waiting for links to appear or people to link to you. the webmaster has to work to get links from a variety of sources.

here's a good one for you on link building ideas
www.seomoz.org/article/advanced-link-building

shakir · 07-19-2009, 09:44 AM

Good discussion discussion...Still little bit confution.. so forum signature link naturel or unnaturel?

wishlist · 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shakir

Good discussion discussion...Still little bit confution.. so forum signature link naturel or unnaturel?

i think it will regarded as natural ones

ashokkumar · 07-22-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shakir

Good discussion discussion...Still little bit confution.. so forum signature link naturel or unnaturel?

Signature link is un-natural.

Instead of signature link we may put some famous person quotes or otherwise our own quotes but we are giving site links.