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Old 10-04-2004, 01:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Google Picking Up URL Content?

Take a look at this:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...UK%7CcountryGB

It looks like Google is listing these results purely because they have the number in the URL.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-04-2004, 10:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have noticed the same type of results lately with the domain name being used for search results.
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Old 10-04-2004, 10:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hasn't this always been the case?
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Old 10-04-2004, 11:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Not always, google switches between a few different rhythms which brings up different results and their doing it constantly.

Google spiders a page and indexes it by using the Title of the page along with a description (a goggle description) that it gets from the content on the page. An example would be something like this;

Title of page Fish Finders

half way down page is some content that says: We here at Fish Finders carry a large assortment of Fish Finder equipment.
What Google will do in this case is use the page title and that part of the page (that sentence) as it's description, if lets say the key word that was searched for was Fish Finders, because the words Fish Finder showed up once in the Title and twice in that sentence.

If the key word is also in the url...well that's an extra kick depending on what rhythm google is using, you want to try to get it up with and with-out the key word in the url.
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Old 10-04-2004, 12:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Isn't because there is nothing else for it to grab onto?
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Does it mean that you can somehow manipulate the description showed in google? Like making sure that the keyword density is highest in the snetence you wish to be used as the description?
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Isn't because there is nothing else for it to grab onto?
spot on IMO.

Dont expect it it to factor into rankings.
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Does it mean that you can somehow manipulate the description showed in google? Like making sure that the keyword density is highest in the snetence you wish to be used as the description?

No. If your key words are in any one page more than 27% of total words Google will consider it spam.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No. If your key words are in any one page more than 27% of total words Google will consider it spam.
Uh..really. Why do some #1 serp sites have 50% kw density then? Why would you post something as fact when it's not?
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Key word density should be between 3 and 9 percent, closer to 9. IMO
I don't know what google considers spam as far as key word density goes.
The trick with the key words is the way the content is looked at or laid out on a page. I have found this formula to work the best. ( in google) key word or phrase to be in the Title once (best if it's all by it's self too, and not one of 3 different words...more relevance that way) and twice in the description. So to further what I stated above about how google spiders a page. Try and write what ever key word you looking to come up under in a sentence where the term comes up twice and once in the title, and if it's in the url...it's not going to hurt.

The tool I used for keyword density:
http://www.webmaster-toolkit.com/key...sis-tool.shtml
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Try and write what ever key word you looking to come up under in a sentence where the term comes up twice and once in the title, and if it's in the url...it's not going to hurt.
Thank you. If this is true, this is the most usefull SEO information I have heard in the last couple of weeks. I have been often upset by the description G is showing for my terms. Manipulating the description should really help the click-thru rate!

to Shawn Steele: This is misunderstanding. You can have 50% keyword density in a selected sequence and 3% at the whole page. I usually target for <3% + keywords in urls , link title and ALT tags.
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Where do you get this info from? Just making up more facts?

Google has always included URL content in their ranking algos....ALWAYS!
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Google has always included URL content in their ranking algos....ALWAYS!
I can second that, for those who don't know; It's one of the reasons why it is common to see keywords in a URL. As in; domain.com/keyword.html. This is known to have positive effects in the serps. It is also effective to use key phrases and I have been getting very good results and #1 positions in the serps using this method. As in; domain.com/where-to-get-icecream.html.

In fact I have seen pages pop up #1 in the serps for non competitive keywords because of the use of this method and without them having any backlinks from other domains but their own.
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to Shawn Steele: This is misunderstanding. You can have 50% keyword density in a selected sequence and 3% at the whole page. I usually target for <3% + keywords in urls , link title and ALT tags.
I disagree that 3% is a max,or 5%, or 10%
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Agree with TGR, it is normal thing or serp. Google grabs the url content and that's why page names and keywords in url have some important.
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Google has always included URL content in their ranking algos....ALWAYS!
I agree, I have many product pages at #1, with no links pointing to the page. My site is template driven, and with hundreds of thousand of pages, it would be imposible to have links pointing to each page, so all I can rely on is optimization and the product name used in the URL.

I've been getting better results then when I did not have the product name in the URL.
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