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Old 12-19-2004, 06:10 AM
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PR stupidity

check the pr of http://www.guitarresources.net and then http://guitarresources.net

It is the same page so why doesn't it get same pagerank? That means that a link to http://www.guitarresources.net is not the same as a link to http://guitarresources.net

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Old 12-19-2004, 06:24 AM
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i think is because site you link from to your site are all pointing to http://www.guitarresources.net/ , PR pass from A Site to B Site. So it did not pass it to http://guitarresources.net . Try do some internet link from Site A to http://guitarresources.net, then it will pass PR to it. It just like http://www.sevenseek.com/ it is PR 0 but http://www.sevenseek.com/ is a PR 7
 
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:33 AM
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Just to clarify a little about what bp99 was saying.

Google sees http://sevenseek.com and http://wwww.sevenseek.com as two total different websites even though in almost all cases they are exactly the same. Why they do this I don't really know especially because like I say almost all the time they are exactly the same and I'm not aware of any real good reason why they would/should be different.
 
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:08 AM
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Setup a 301 redirect from one to the other.
 
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:28 AM
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Google sees http://sevenseek.com and http://wwww.sevenseek.com as two total different websites even though in almost all cases they are exactly the same. Why they do this I don't really know especially because like I say almost all the time they are exactly the same and I'm not aware of any real good reason why they would/should be different.
Ya, i think googe see them as different site. A Site (is with www), B sites (are links that passes PR to A site), C Site (without www.) B sites passes PR to A site , but did not pass to C site. So now do a link from A site to C site, it passes PR.

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Old 12-19-2004, 11:18 AM
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Ledfish and thegunowner have covered it - but bb99 I think it is bad advice suggesting they get links to both versions of the same site.

What you want is all the links to go to either one or the other - never promote both.

Typically ppl choose the www.version to promote and in many cased will redirect the http://version to it.

You don't want a duplicate of your own site with pr behind it - one will get a penalty from G and so your links to it will have been wasted.
 
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Old 12-19-2004, 01:14 PM
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I would recommend going with www.yourdomain.com, and then changing all the backlinks to reflect that. Then add this in your htaccess file:

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RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^YOURDOMAIN\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^.*$ http://www.YOURDOMAIN.com%{REQUEST_URI} [R=permanent,L]
Obviously, change YOURDOMAIN.COM for the correct domain name
 
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Old 12-19-2004, 05:43 PM
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Ledfish and thegunowner have covered it - but bb99 I think it is bad advice suggesting they get links to both versions of the same site.

What you want is all the links to go to either one or the other - never promote both.
I didnt mean to promote both of them.... just passing internal PR if he wants that. Anyway it is better to promote one only.
 
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:20 PM
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Google sees http://sevenseek.com and http://wwww.sevenseek.com as two total different websites even though in almost all cases they are exactly the same. Why they do this I don't really know. . .
The fact is that they *are* two different urls. A third variation is with or without the ending slash. A spider blindly follows a link and reads whatever the server, serves up.

Servers maintain a configuration file, and that file defines how to handle requests for the variations (aliases). If the configuration file is written correctly (as in Shawn's example) the server transfers requests for aliases to the one and only true url http://www.somesite.com/ (full path with slash).
 
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Then If google see them as different site, Link from one site worth more???

domain.com and www.domain.com

Link from two different site...,
 
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Old 12-21-2004, 05:58 PM
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Then If google see them as different site, Link from one site worth more???
Your backlinks should all use the same format. If you were starting with a new site, I would stick with "http://www.mynewsite.com/" but the point is that if you use two variations, links and PR ate theoretically split between them.

Consolidate for best results.

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longcall911: They are only seen as two different pages by the search engines. Both apache and iis will show the same page for both. Also you will not get a penalty from a search engine of duplucate sites.

The trailing / is not considered a differnt page by the search engines. You will be hard pressed to find any example.com and example.com/ that have differnet PR values. There are some out there that do but that is becuase of mod rewrites.

Search engines also see example.com/ and example.com/? as differnet pages but apache and iis don't.

As it has been said 301 your example.com into your www*example.com or the other way around if you like. Don't leave example.com/? (? is a query string) in your source anyway. I just cleaned up a site that had a js that did that on 6 PR8 pages and bleed a PR7 to each of them. The next toolbar PR update will fix it not that it is not in the source any more.

Just for interest sake there is some trailing / that have differnet PR. I have a feeling this is a mod rewrite issue. Any one see any more of these around?

http*://www.avismauritius.com/en/locations/ PR=3
http*://www.avismauritius.com/en/locations PR=0
 
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i think the reason why is simple. If you go to http://fbi.gov no page but go to http://www.fbi.gov their site appears. Im sure this stuff is the reason google sees them as two different urls.
 
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