Is Google Evil?

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by profitgs

Google is not a evil but some people make it.

People outside Google make it be evil?

Originally Posted by Bobo99

Google has provided many great tools for us and they have made it very good such as Gmail and Google Docs, ...

Had you used professional enterprise grade e-mail or office productivety applications, you would know that Google's offerings are rather primitive.

They only give away the minimum required for making people become dependent on them; for more and/or better, one has to pay.

Originally Posted by Bobo99

... they have changed the way we use the internet.

No, Google has done no such thing; they've provided absolutely no capabilities that did not exist, or come to exist, through the efforts of others. Google does not innovate; it copies and buys that which has been created by others.

Originally Posted by Bobo99

I don't think they are evil, they are just trying to help us and make some money too.

ROTFLMAO.

Time to wake up, and have some coffee; that Kool Aid's got you hallucinating.

Google wants to make you as dependent on them as possible, so that they can make all the money.

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[Happyseo]

Everything in this world is just like a coin. It will always have two sides; the goods and the bads. If the fact told that Google did many dirty things to be the top company, let the power on our hands. Let us do wisely to make use of it.

[movieriz]

Originally Posted by Happyseo

Everything in this world is just like a coin. It will always have two sides; the goods and the bads. If the fact told that Google did many dirty things to be the top company, let the power on our hands. Let us do wisely to make use of it.

Yes! A simple sayings but it is really a big and good for us to have knowledge in life.. Each and every persons has the ability to choose if what might be the right for its own. Or like choosing its destination.... It is always us who have the life that our been owned....

[MrAllan]

I disagree that Google is Evil. I Love google. It helped me in so many ways most specially in my research.

[Enfew]

No way, i hate when people says that,
Google is not evil,
"The Hungry Beast Trying Very Hard Not To Be Evil" means they are starting even more services to grow their business to be in the market.

Sounds fair to me.
They earned it and they deserve it.

[~CReed]

Originally Posted by Enfew

Sounds fair to me.
They earned it and they deserve it.

How they earned it may one day come into question and I foresee a long road ahead for them with regulators, the justice department, foreign governments...maybe even one day the SEC, who knows at this point.

The honeymoon with Google has long been over.

[Enfew]

Originally Posted by ~CReed

How they earned it may one day come into question and I foresee a long road ahead for them with regulators, the justice department, foreign governments...maybe even one day the SEC, who knows at this point.

The honeymoon with Google has long been over.

I completely diagree with you..

Google is not just a search engine, its multinational public cloud computing, Internet search, and advertising technologies corporation.

Are you aware of the Google employee figure(21,805), most of them are best in their field. Eg, Eric schmidt, Matt cutts, Sergey Brin, larry Page.....ect, and their annual profilt of $23.651 billion (2009) and they are listed in NASDAQ.

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by Enfew

I completely diagree with you..

Google is not just a search engine, its multinational public cloud computing, Internet search, and advertising technologies corporation.

Are you aware of the Google employee figure(21,805), most of them are best in their field. Eg, Eric schmidt, Matt cutts, Sergey Brin, larry Page.....ect, and their annual profilt of $23.651 billion (2009) and they are listed in NASDAQ.

You know Enron was also very sucessful, look where thay are now

[Enfew]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

You know Enron was also very sucessful, look where thay are now

It was like 5 - 6 years back.
This is 2010, they have a strong position in internet (including youtube, and the zynga), they have one of the best browser(now working on linux kernal based OS called chrome), Android, and so many more things that i don't even remember.

[Enfew]

oh! i forget to mention Blogspot, adsense and gmail.
They are best in those services too.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Enfew

It was like 5 - 6 years back.
This is 2010, they have a strong position in internet (including youtube, and the zynga), they have one of the best browser(now working on linux kernal based OS called chrome), Android, and so many more things that i don't even remember.

Originally Posted by Enfew

oh! i forget to mention Blogspot, adsense and gmail.
They are best in those services too.

Google's are the best?

I'm betting that you've never even tried any professional enterprise grade services or applications similar to Google's free offerings.

Fortunately, the EU, the US DOJ, and other governments have yet to quaff the Google Kool Aid.

PS: Name one service that Google did not either copy from, buy from, or otherwise base on the work of others.

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[Enfew]

Originally Posted by deepsand

Google's are the best?

I'm betting that you've never even tried any professional enterprise grade services or applications similar to Google's free offerings.

its not about Google vs professional enterprise grade services.

its about "Is Google Evil?"

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by Enfew

It was like 5 - 6 years back.
This is 2010, they have a strong position in internet (including youtube, and the zynga), they have one of the best browser(now working on linux kernal based OS called chrome), Android, and so many more things that i don't even remember.

It could be 5 -6 years back it is the same principal.

Chrome is crap and one of the best way to compile more data behaviour for their own gain, FF is the top browser.

Android I don't care so what?

Blogspot is so great that you cannot copy and past a doc from Word file, you have to do the typesetting in their text box.

Adsenses is so great that 99% of spammers display their system, and that's pretty disrespectful for the companies paying for this kind of network.

Gmail is the favorite spammers email provider. 85% of people spamming my site have gmail, what a joke.

Google is the best of everything for you and it seems you did not learn the hard way yet.

[Enfew]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

Chrome is crap and one of the best way to compile more data behaviour for their own gain, FF is the top browser.

FF is the best, I use ff too, But Chrome and opera are great.

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

Android I don't care so what?

so what? It doesn't matter if you care or not

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

Blogspot is so great that you cannot copy and past a doc from Word file, you have to do the typesetting in their text box.

I disagree

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

Adsenses is so great that 99% of spammers display their system, and that's pretty disrespectful for the companies paying for this kind of network.

I disagree X 10

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

Gmail is the favorite spammers email provider. 85% of people spamming my site have gmail, what a joke.

I disagree x 5 (do you know the time before Gmail?)

[Brave7]

you can disagree it doesn't change the facts!

[Cricket]

Comments made by both of you can be considered highly subjective, rather than fact.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Enfew

its not about Google vs professional enterprise grade services.

Hey; you're the one who made the claims re. Google's being best in everything.

Originally Posted by Enfew

its about "Is Google Evil?"

That it is.

And, anyone who seeks and attains the kind of power that Google craves is certain to become corrupted by it.

History is replete with a myriad examples of that; and, of none to the contrary. You might want to give some some study.

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[~CReed]

Originally Posted by Enfew

I completely diagree with you..

Google is not just a search engine, its multinational public cloud computing, Internet search, and advertising technologies corporation.

Are you aware of the Google employee figure(21,805), most of them are best in their field. Eg, Eric schmidt, Matt cutts, Sergey Brin, larry Page.....ect, and their annual profilt of $23.651 billion (2009) and they are listed in NASDAQ.

I'm quite aware.

Do you think Google cares how they go about increasing their bottom line, or at whose expense?

Are you suggesting that you're so impressed with Google and they should be able to continue to operate with impunity given (amongst other things) their recent admissions of the unauthorized collection of data including emails, passwords and other data in the US and abroad? Do you really believe their claim that they unknowingly collected this data? Do you believe that they didn't know this code was present within the software when they began collecting images for their street views?

What do you think the reasons are why Google has increased their lobbying?

Are you aware of calls for the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform to investigate the relationship between Google and White House Deputy Chief Technology Officer Andrew McLaughlin - the former Head of Global Public Policy at Google.

As chairman and ranking member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, your committee has a special responsibility to oversee ethics matters with federal policy implications. There are few issues more important today than reinforcing Americans’ faith in government at all levels and particularly the high ethics standards the Obama Administration set forth 18 months ago.

Unfortunately those ethics standards have been called into question by a growing body of evidence suggesting that one company, Google, enjoys an exceptionally close relationship with this White House. More importantly, as numerous news stories over the past several months have demonstrated, it appears that Google may have also been inappropriately working through White House Deputy Chief Technology Officer Andrew McLaughlin – himself a former Google employee – to influence government policy on multiple policy issues that have a major impact on the company’s agenda. The questions surrounding Mr. McLaughlin’s appointment and the subsequent issues surrounding his numerous communications with his former employer raise one fundamental question: Is the White House Deputy Chief Technology Officer working solely for the American taxpayer’s benefit, or for Google’s benefit as an inside agent?

As you are aware, prior to joining the Obama Administration, Mr. McLaughlin served as Google’s head of global public policy. His appointment to serve as the Deputy CTO for Internet issues raised concerns among several government ethics groups from the moment it was announced. Jeff Chester of the Center for Digital Democracy and John Simpson of Consumer Watchdog in fact, were prescient in their concerns at the time, predicting that appointing a political operative from one of the leading Internet companies would put him in a unique position to influence technology policy that could benefit his former employer.

[Enfew]

Ok, now thats it,
I Quit,
everyone is trying to prove their own point.
"Google is Evil" thats what you guys want me to say.

[~CReed]

Not at all; I just wanted to know if you were aware of those issues and what your opinion was regarding them.