View your site w/out the sandbox?

toddieg · 04-11-2005, 01:02 PM

http://roberttaft.com/

What the heck is this site showing? They claim it's the SERPs w/out the sandbox, but I don't necessarily agree.

Maybe it's the SERPs w/out a certain filter? Perhaps w/out the link age filter? Who knows... any ideas?

dcristo · 04-11-2005, 11:59 PM

I certainly hope your right!

baldlygo · 04-12-2005, 01:57 AM

Very interesting - thanks toddieg.
Using the "Out of Sandbox" button both of my un-competitive keywords "Maldon Archaeology" and "Clock fairs" jump to No. 1 - their rightful place? Google straight has them both below 100!

Google appears to be penalising keyword phases (not sites) - since just "Maldon" puts my site 12 but "Maldon Archaeology" is down at 151.

GoldDust · 04-12-2005, 05:29 AM

It is interesting i agree... some sites just dont come out of this so called sandbox effect. I have known many search terms show up different for over two years and still never shows as without the sandbox effect.

For example:

One of our top search terms - "Dance Music" shows us 20th but without the sandbox we are in 2nd place in the serps. The serp results have shown us on the second page for over a year with the sandbox applied and without the sandbox applied "Dance Music" is 2nd place in google - we see this for nearly all our top search terms. The point is that we never usally see the "without Sandbox" results show up how ever long we wait..

infact Same with the term "Dance" shows us 1st & 2nd without the sandbox..

nice to hope though!

smindsrt · 04-12-2005, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldlygo

Google appears to be penalising keyword phases (not sites) - since just "Maldon" puts my site 12 but "Maldon Archaeology" is down at 151.

I actually noticed this a few weeks back. One of my sites ranks well for "widget equipment" the other main KW "widget supplies" ranked well but a few weeks ago fell back into the "sandbox" or was filtered out. Not the entire site only this one KW.

I got a few links for "widget supplies" and I think this is the reason I was filtered. BTW, I have had first page allinanchor for "widget supplies" since the first of AUG. and was out of the sandbox for a month and a half.

pcarlow · 04-13-2005, 10:14 AM

Wow, thats amazing. I hope this is a sign of things to come for me.

awall19 · 04-13-2005, 07:53 PM

thats not really w/o sandbox or whatever... its just a longer search query w many stop words in it. nice to see me #2 only behind the google seo page for "seo" though

Jason · 04-15-2005, 10:11 AM

What's a sandbox?

Alan30 · 04-16-2005, 12:59 PM

It is difficult to say what this is showing and why the results are different. What is interesting is that new sites do appear in these results - Sites that you would expect to be in the sandbox.

aboyd · 04-16-2005, 11:37 PM

Wow. On a normal search, my new site (Publisher Database) isn't even on the list when I search for "Publisher Database" -- Google shows 882 results, and I'm omitted. But without the sandbox, my site is #14.

Wow wow wow.

Does anyone know how long the sandbox lasts? Having my site go from no listing to #14 would kinda help the traffic levels a wee bit.

PS: Jason, I'm assuming that the term "sandbox" here is being used to imply that Google temporarily holds new Web sites, or penalizes them somehow, until they have a proven track record.

arius · 04-17-2005, 08:03 AM

The query that they use is interesting:
for example:
{"buy direct directory" at a for the in with on to by as "buy direct directory" at a for the in with on to by as "buy direct directory" at a for the in with on to by as "buy direct directory" at a for the in with on to by as}
According to the site info the long query hacks or by passes filters in the the Google SERPs engine. I wonder how they discovered this? Experimentation or an insider leak?