Official Google Update Thread - September 2010

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• Have a speculation about when Google will update?
• Do you think there has been a backlinks update?
• Do you think there has been a PR update?
• Are you seeing Google fluctuations?
• Do you think there has been an algorithm update?

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You may want to start with a basic understanding about Google updates before posting in this thread.
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/whats-an-update/

[~CReed]

Nice to see that Google has recently updated their directory, If you were recently listed in DMOZ, you might see your listing there.

[DrewryMedia]

Quick question...Are users allowed to have forum signatures in Google forums?

[rujuta]

(@ Cricket: I don't know whether I can post here or not. If this is not the right post to submit, please remove it.)

Recently Google Search has changed and showing search results as you type called Google Instant.

We have already a thread for that: http://www.v7n.com/forums/google-for...ou-type-4.html

[snakeair]

Originally Posted by rujuta

(@ Cricket: I don't know whether I can post here or not. If this is not the right post to submit, please remove it.)

Recently Google Search has changed and showing search results as you type called Google Instant.

We have already a thread for that: http://www.v7n.com/forums/google-for...ou-type-4.html

Trust me, Cricket already knows about this new feature. Thanks for mentioning this though.

Ok, now back to the topic at hand.

[merockysingh]

I think Google Update have been started for some websites and it is working for some inner pages. Within a week we can see the major Google PR Change.

[DrewryMedia]

What is up with this new service that everyone is talking about named Google Instant? I'm not quite understanding the entire concept of it. Maybe it's that I don't understand it for now, or...??

[snakeair]

Originally Posted by DrewryMedia

What is up with this new service that everyone is talking about named Google Instant? I'm not quite understanding the entire concept of it. Maybe it's that I don't understand it for now, or...??

You have posted in the google instant thread i created already a few times. Google instant has nothing to do with this thread topic right now. Post your comments about google instant in the instant thread. Your answer is in that thread.

http://www.v7n.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3608226

Thanks

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by merockysingh

I think Google Update have been started for some websites and it is working for some inner pages. Within a week we can see the major Google PR Change.

Actual PageRank is updated continually; it is only Tool Bar PR that is not.

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[xiaoayuan]

Originally Posted by deepsand

Actual PageRank is updated continually; it is only Tool Bar PR that is not.

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I think so. And lots of people talk about how their PR0 websites outrank PR3, PR4 websites (I mean the data out of tool bar as nobody knows the actual PR). Most of time, I was wondering maybe the PR0 websites have actual PR4.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by xiaoayuan

I think so. And lots of people talk about how their PR0 websites outrank PR3, PR4 websites (I mean the data out of tool bar as nobody knows the actual PR). Most of time, I was wondering maybe the PR0 websites have actual PR4.

While PageRank is a factor in the SERP algorithm, it is not a controlling one, as it is no more than a measure re. Inbound Links, which tells one nothing re. the actual nature of the site.

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[pakistanvoices]

Hi, buddies

Why do Google drop PR with out any announcement of PR update. It is very bad news for me to see my site PR dropped.

Any reason behind it. Is any one else facing this problem.

regards

[Steve_gts]

Google never announce the update to the toolbar PR, and when it is updated, some will rise and some will fall. It makes no difference to your SERP's though, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[AirForce1]

Hi,

Personally, I have not noticed PR changes on my own sites currently. I think we must find out the reasons behind such drops and do something to make up since it is not obligation for Google to notice site owners for PR updates.

all the best,

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by pakistanvoices

Why do Google drop PR with out any announcement of PR update. It is very bad news for me to see my site PR dropped.

Google never announces Tool Bar PR (TBPR) updates. More importantly, your Actual PR is continually updated; TBPR is merely a fixed snapshot of a particular point in time.

And, a change in TBPR does not necessarily mean that Actual PR has changed in a similar manner, as TBPR is a percentile ranking of Actual PR, not a linear represention of it.

Originally Posted by Steve_gts

It makes no difference to your SERP's though, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Are you certain of that?

Why would Google put forth the very great effort required for the computation of PR, or list it as claim(s) in its patents, only to not use the results?

Originally Posted by AirForce1

I think we must find out the reasons behind such drops ...

PR is a measure of the probability of mutually exclusive events. This means that Actual PR has a value range of 0 to 1; and, that the sum of all individual Actual PR values must = 1.

Therefore, no resource can gain PR without all others losing some.

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[Steve_gts]

Originally Posted by deepsand

Are you certain of that?

Why would Google put forth the very great effort required for the computation of PR, or list it as claim(s) in its patents, only to not use the results? __________________

Yes, absolutely certain. Because it's a retrospective snapshot, any gains or losses in SERP would have already happened, so toolbar PR being updated will make no difference to SERP's at all. Actual PR is another story, but we are discussing the TBPR.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Steve_gts

Yes, absolutely certain. Because it's a retrospective snapshot, any gains or losses in SERP would have already happened, so toolbar PR being updated will make no difference to SERP's at all. Actual PR is another story, but we are discussing the TBPR.

Actually, we are, of necessity, discussing both, since the latter is a derivative of the former, a distinction which many fail to either make or even understand.

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[Steve_gts]

Possibly, but I was specific that my comment was about TBPR. I don't doubt that the actual PR is still part of the algorithm. I was just answering PakistanVoices question in relation to PR Update which I took as meaning Toolbar. Anyway, never mind, we are both arguing the same point

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Steve_gts

Possibly, but I was specific that my comment was about TBPR. I don't doubt that the actual PR is still part of the algorithm. I was just answering PakistanVoices question in relation to PR Update which I took as meaning Toolbar. Anyway, never mind, we are both arguing the same point

Were we in the presence of only those who both understood and make the distinction, such clarifications would be unneeded.

In the real world, though, best to err on the side of caution.

While it is now clear that you do grasp the correct facts, that was not immediately obvious.

Now, time to grab a few hours of sleep. Keep an eye on the place while I'm gone.

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[TeewhY]

Is it me or Google just updated that tiny little green bar? is it too early..