Official Google Update Thread - October 2010

**Cricket** · Share | #1 (**permalink**) 10-03-2010, 10:57 AM

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Have a speculation about when Google will update?
Do you think there has been a backlinks update?
Do you think there has been a PR update?
Are you seeing Google fluctuations?
Do you think there has been an algorithm update?

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You may want to start with a basic understanding about Google updates before posting in this thread.
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/whats-an-update/

9inches · #2 (**permalink**) 10-08-2010, 09:08 AM

I'm not sure that Google will ever update PR ((

deepsand · #3 (**permalink**) 10-08-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 9inches

I'm not sure that Google will ever update PR ((

Not to worry.

Actual PR is updated continuously.

The Tool Bar is not called the Fool Bar without good reason.

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charlesgan · #4 (**permalink**) 10-09-2010, 09:44 AM

i am more concern about SERP update compare to pagerank update.
for this october, google instant give a very different set of result page, ranking fluctuation & google dance etc.

Have anyone figured out how to improve in serp for this recent google algorith?

deepsand · #5 (**permalink**) 10-09-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by charlesgan

i am more concern about SERP update compare to pagerank update.
for this october, google instant give a very different set of result page, ranking fluctuation & google dance etc.

Have anyone figured out how to improve in serp for this recent google algorith?

Firstly, the SERP algorithm is continually being changed, so there's no point in trying to figure out how to deal with that of yesterday.

As for Instant Search, that has no effect on the SERPs returned for a given query string. That it appears to do so owes to the fact that it is responding on the fly to incomplete queries.

And, as such are individually tailored, based at least in part on the user's IP Address, there is no way to universally optimize for such.

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9inches · #6 (**permalink**) 10-11-2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by deepsand

Actual PR is updated continuously.

Thanks

I supposed that. But there is no any way to see it, isn't it?
PR shows that I develop and optimize my site in a right way. If I can't see PR it doesn't have any sense!

deepsand · #7 (**permalink**) 10-11-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 9inches

Thanks

I supposed that. But there is no any way to see it, isn't it?
PR shows that I develop and optimize my site in a right way. If I can't see PR it doesn't have any sense!

Would that not then mean that none of the other 200 or so factors incorporated into the SERP algorithm also "make no sense?"

Were any SE to divulge its algorithms in full detail, everyone could learn how to game them, rendering them useless for all. For that reason, such are held as closely guarded Trade Secrets.

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stevemarino · #8 (**permalink**) 10-12-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deepsand

Not to worry.

Actual PR is updated continuously.

The Tool Bar is not called the Fool Bar without good reason.

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Yeah, but it would be nice for it to be updated once in a while, right? Just for curiosity's sake.

jtare · #9 (**permalink**) 10-12-2010, 01:43 AM

Has anybody got an idea what happened with Google on 7th October, I read a post that seems quite relevant to what has happened to our positions, but am struggling to find out anything about it? http://www.markrushworth.com/google-...-october-2010/

It would be interesting to know if anybody has experienced something similar.

trooperbill · #10 (**permalink**) 10-12-2010, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jtare

Has anybody got an idea what happened with Google on 7th October, I read a post that seems quite relevant to what has happened to our positions, but am struggling to find out anything about it? http://www.markrushworth.com/google-...-october-2010/

It would be interesting to know if anybody has experienced something similar.

Wow didnt know people were actually reading my blog

deepsand · #11 (**permalink**) 10-12-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevemarino

Yeah, but it would be nice for it to be updated once in a while, right? Just for curiosity's sake.

For those with time for idle curiosity, one need only continually monitor the TBPR of a representative sample of pages, watching for changes.

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Originally Posted by jtare

Has anybody got an idea what happened with Google on 7th October, I read a post that seems quite relevant to what has happened to our positions, but am struggling to find out anything about it?

You should, if one does nor already exist, start a new thread about this subject.

This thread is about PageRank, not SERP Rank.

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yummyhuang · #12 (**permalink**) 10-14-2010, 12:25 AM

The PR is not updated?

deepsand · #13 (**permalink**) 10-14-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by yummyhuang

The PR is not updated?

Did you not above read http://www.v7n.com/forums/google-for...ml#post1503118 ?

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kbeus21 · #14 (**permalink**) 10-18-2010, 09:13 PM

There seems to be some changes going on one website of mine dropped from PR 2 to PR N/a one website from N/A to 0. These are the only changes I have seen so far the website that went from PR 2 to N/A completely dropped out of the SERPs so I am a little freaked out right now. I think I over built keywords for one term so I am trying to spread them all out again.

deepsand · #15 (**permalink**) 10-18-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kbeus21

There seems to be some changes going on one website of mine dropped from PR 2 to PR N/a one website from N/A to 0. These are the only changes I have seen so far the website that went from PR 2 to N/A completely dropped out of the SERPs so I am a little freaked out right now. I think I over built keywords for one term so I am trying to spread them all out again.

A TBPR of "Not Ranked" says nothing re. Actual PR, but simply that the resource in question was not included in the PR Calculation Matrix from which the TBPR was derived.

Regarding keywords, such are wholly immaterial to PR.

Normally, the only way that a resource would be dropped from the Calculation Matrix would be if it was banned from the SERPs. Have you done a Google search for the URL in question? If that results in "not found," it's been banned.

Otherwise, the only explanation for the change in TBPR from "2" to "Not Ranked" is a Google brain fart - That's a technical term.

- as a resource that continuously remains in the Calculation Matrix can never return to a TBPR of "Not Ranked," but only return to "0" at the worst.

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thebitbotdotcom · #16 (**permalink**) 10-21-2010, 04:35 AM

Wow. Still no update. PR has been sucked into a black hole, never to return, hopefully...

It's a bogus meter anyway...one that skews value.

Alastairee · #17 (**permalink**) 10-22-2010, 07:34 AM

The site is still in updating and the PR is as same as it is.

deepsand · #18 (**permalink**) 10-23-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alastairee

The site is still in updating and the PR is as same as it is.

You do know that the content of the site has nothing to do with PR, do you not?

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kbeus21 · #19 (**permalink**) 10-24-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deepsand

A TBPR of "Not Ranked" says nothing re. Actual PR, but simply that the resource in question was not included in the PR Calculation Matrix from which the TBPR was derived.

Regarding keywords, such are wholly immaterial to PR.

Normally, the only way that a resource would be dropped from the Calculation Matrix would be if it was banned from the SERPs. Have you done a Google search for the URL in question? If that results in "not found," it's been banned.

Otherwise, the only explanation for the change in TBPR from "2" to "Not Ranked" is a Google brain fart - That's a technical term.

- as a resource that continuously remains in the Calculation Matrix can never return to a TBPR of "Not Ranked," but only return to "0" at the worst.

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Thanks deepsand that is good to know. It is actually really interesting watching the site bounce around both with PR and in serps. Im glad my website won't be completely de ranked though.