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Old 02-16-2006, 06:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Parsing Keywords That Are Run Together

http://www.linkbuildingblog.com/2006...match_kw_.html

Andy Hagans writes that he believes that Google gives weight to keywords in the domains.

Um, yes, this is old news.

But then he posts examples.

v7ndotcomelursrebmem.com
v7ndotcomelursrebmem.net
v7ndotcomelursrebmem.co.uk
v7ndotcom-elursrebmem.cc
v7ndotcomelursrebmem.nu
v7ndotcomelursrebmem.ws


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Hiya Andy,

v7ndotcomelursrebmem.tld is not an exact match. As far as Google is concerned, it might as well be chinesecheckers.com

That is, the words are not seperated by a hyphen so the keywords are not visible to Google.

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Please.

Google has been identifing exact matches in domains without hyphens for close to two years now.

(Notice how the words in the domain are bolded even without a hyphen?)
Now, Google does highlight the keywords in the URLs in the SERPs. But to be more accurate, Google highlights exact match of the occurences of search term in the SERPs.

Most folks know that the highlighting is not an indication of any algorithmic ranking of the keywords, which would require Google to have almost psychic abilities.

And I should state, Google does not have those psychic abilities yet.

For example, in this search Google highlights rapist in the word "therapist". Does Google know something we don't? Are all therapists rapists?

There are a ton of searches like this were Google highlights words that were created simply by running two words together.

I'll be posting screencaps later. For now, check out some funny dual meaning domains here:

http://www.v7n.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22670

And you might also want to do a search for allinurl:v7ndotcom elursrebmem
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The highlighting is a simple search of word in the stream of text.

so if you searched for 'aaa' it will highlight it not mater in which combination it's present like "bbaaaabbb" or "bb.aaa-aaa.bb" ....
So it has nothing to do with search. Just as would human go through page and highlight all occurrences of "aaa" on that page.

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To disprove the theory that google can search for incomplete words simply do the search for "memorandu" all pages you find will have "memorandu" as a separate word. And no pages with "memorandum". That pretty much proves that google can not do search for partial words. So basically in case of domain name v7ndotcomelursrebmem.tld it can not say that this page is relevant for search "v7ndotcom elursrebmem" because it has "v7ndotcom" and "elursrebmem" in it.

It will be relevant only to "v7ndotcomelursrebmem" word.

PS: Forgot to add: So John i am totally agree with you here. And that guy "Andy Hagans" knows nothing
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Something tells me that with 1000s of PhDs, Google may have figured that one out by now. I stand by my calling it an exact match.
Doesn't matter how many PhDs you get - if I write "whorepresents" only I will know whether I wrote who represents or whore presents.
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I agree with you John.

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LOL. I thought it was hilarious
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An older thread:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6549

A couple interesting searches...

http://www.google.com/search?q=washing+seattle

Google highlights:

www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/seattle_washington

So is Google parsing the keyword "washing" from "Washington"? (It doesn't exist there, by the way.)

www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/university_district_seattle_washington

www.washingtonfreepress.org

That one, WashingtonFreePress, shows up without "washing" on the page copy. Anchor text? OR is it parsing the "washing"? I'm betting on anchor text for the moment.

Again with the oddball highlighting. But you'll notice it doesn't highlight "Washing" in this URL:

www.mytravelguide.com/attractions/profile-68571405-United_States_Washington_Seattle_Burke_Thomas_Memo rial

I found a bunch of others but I'l get into those later.
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pet-medication IMO.
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That one, WashingtonFreePress, shows up without "washing" on the page copy. Anchor text? OR is it parsing the "washing"? I'm betting on anchor text for the moment.
Look what i have found
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=htt...&cop=&ei=UTF-8

It has or used to have this phrase "Ford Redoubles Green-washing"

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Again with the oddball highlighting. But you'll notice it doesn't highlight "Washing" in this URL:
http://www.mytravelguide.com/attract...homas_Memorial
Which page is it on? I could not find that link on next 3 pages.
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Which page is it on? I could not find that link on next 3 pages.
It's #1 for the search term.
http://www.google.com/search?q=washing+seattle
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So would that make pet--medication better or worse than petmedication?

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I am turned off by double hyphens myself.
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I am turned off by double hyphens myself.

Fair enough, but from getting results into the serps point of view is it better to use a double hyphen than no hyphen at all?
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I would say yes, hyphen is better.
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Oops, see that now.

That highlighting is confusing.

For that search phrase there are a bunch of words "Washington" (in the result) that has not been highlighted. But at the same time the "wash" has been highlighted in the "Elephant Car Wash"

Also in the URL (#10) http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/ref...tle_washington the washing gets highlighted.
But in the one you provided it's not highlighted.

My guess someone wrote a bad highlighting algorithm, I can do better