Officially fed up with google

OptWizard · 03-08-2006, 08:57 AM

SInce the last "Major" update by google I fell off the planet. went from 12 to 200's , I was moving up slowly now I am back down to 218.

I have only 1 way links I add content at least once a week if not more. I blog I article write.

Now I am wondering if there is some sort of penalty on my site. ( I dont beleive i said that)

Is there an email to send somewhere to find out if I was penalized and any suggestions for my site

KW is debt consolidation

DarkNinja · 03-08-2006, 10:01 AM

Are you talking about you debt site?
If so, you still have a great PR. If you were penalized by big G, they would have knocked you down to 2 or something.

GeorgeB · 03-08-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkNinja

Are you talking about you debt site?
If so, you still have a great PR. If you were penalized by big G, they would have knocked you down to 2 or something.

Considering that the PR is updated more often than you think he could be penalized and still show a good PR in the toolbar.

OptWizard · 03-08-2006, 10:10 AM

great high PR and down in the Capper for rankings
any suggestion to wake up googs ?

1234pens · 03-08-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OptWizard

SInce the last "Major" update by google I fell off the planet. went from 12 to 200's , I was moving up slowly now I am back down to 218.

I have only 1 way links I add content at least once a week if not more. I blog I article write.

Now I am wondering if there is some sort of penalty on my site. ( I dont beleive i said that)

Is there an email to send somewhere to find out if I was penalized and any suggestions for my site

KW is debt consolidation

OptWizard I feel the same god dham way!!!!!!!!!

I was like in the top 20's - 30's now I am #400 something in google. For the same keyword in yahoo I am #1 / MSN I am #5.

Is there any way you can find out if you have been penalized ?? I really need to know.

Ferre · 03-08-2006, 01:37 PM

Me thinks that anyone who is selling nothing but affiliate stuff becomes of minor importance for Google, something I applaud btw. Looking at which sites dropped since the latest update this is what I noticed, they also seem to put more weight on non commercial sites lately.

Julie · 03-08-2006, 01:41 PM

Perhaps your sites just suck, or better ones have come along. Not everyone gets to be at the top forever. What goes up, must come down.

Affiliate site crap deserves to go down....waaaaaaaaaay down.

veridicus · 03-08-2006, 02:58 PM

MSN and Yahoo seem to do nothing to lower content spam and affiliate-only crap in their rankings. They also show tons and tons of duplicate content. These are the reasons they don't have the market share Google has. Google's results are typically less spammy and more useful.

Personally I've rarely ranked well with MSN or Yahoo but usually rank ok with Google. That's because I only provide relevant original content.

1234pens · 03-08-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

Perhaps your sites just suck, or better ones have come along. Not everyone gets to be at the top forever. What goes up, must come down.

Affiliate site crap deserves to go down....waaaaaaaaaay down.

I think you suck!!

OptWizard · 03-09-2006, 11:59 AM

I think google sux

Julie · 03-09-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1234pens

I think you suck!!

Waaah waaah waah. Get over it.

OptWizard · 03-09-2006, 02:40 PM

I see quality posts by you.

Anyone that has anything constructive to say that would be great.

Julie · 03-09-2006, 06:36 PM

Well come on... I hear the same thing over and over on these boards. "My site is so great and why isn't it #1 or in the top 3 pages??! Google is out to get me!"

Sometimes people just have bad sites, or the market has changed. Other times they are doing something wrong. And even more rarely, Google screws up and you're dropped...but most of the time there is a reason.

1234pens · 03-09-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

Well come on... I hear the same thing over and over on these boards. "My site is so great and why isn't it #1 or in the top 3 pages??! Google is out to get me!"

Sometimes people just have bad sites, or the market has changed. Other times they are doing something wrong. And even more rarely, Google screws up and you're dropped...but most of the time there is a reason.

Julie,

Please go ahead tell me what is wrong with my site & how i can improve it?

Since you seem to have so much to say. www.1234pens.com

[keyword] · 03-10-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OptWizard

SInce the last "Major" update by google I fell off the planet. went from 12 to 200's , I was moving up slowly now I am back down to 218.

I have only 1 way links I add content at least once a week if not more. I blog I article write.

Now I am wondering if there is some sort of penalty on my site. ( I dont beleive i said that)

Is there an email to send somewhere to find out if I was penalized and any suggestions for my site

KW is debt consolidation

Ok I'll take a stab at it... It looks like your site has a lot of good content, a good number of pages indexed, since you've said you're adding constantly, that's good as well.

It appears that you have paid advertisements on quite a few sites. I mean, it looks like a lot of them are good sites, and you're at least on relevant pages, however if you ask me, those links actually LOOK orchestrated. Just about all of their site structures are domain.com/money/ and just about all their titles say Domain.com - Money.

Since it was that easy for me to pick out, I was able to dump a few of them into a Class-C IP Checker. It turns out the sites I typed in are all on different IP addresses, but ALL within the same Class-C Range. This means to me that the sites are all hosted through the same company and owned by the same company. All of them are also using the term “debt consolidation” as your anchor text, without a single deviation. The fact that every site has the same external links around yours as well doesn’t help either. I’ve spotted that as a network, and I’m no genius or mathematician, so I would be willing to bet some cash on Google finding it as a network. Being a network, I would if I were a search engine (Google may too) consider this One link.

Speaking of anchor text, don’t get me wrong. I love the power of anchor text, but it’s gotta be natural. You’ve got 300+ links with the term debt consolidation, 200 with credit counseling, and 200 as kimberly credit. This is one thing I would definitely look at. You need a good mix of anchor texts as it’s important to look as natural as possible. I would suggest articles and even press releases that DON’T use your keywords as the link text. The engines are smart enough to know that the page is relevant and that it should transfer link popularity and pagerank to your site to the point that those links will still count heavily.

Be wary of automated link networks. Be cautious of the anchor text you use. Mix it up and keep it conservative or at least under the radar. ;-)

webzenstar · 03-12-2006, 01:44 PM

In my recent experience, I see Google and at other spider-based sites value the newest content on my sites or, to be more precise, the fact my sites always have new content to present visitors.

If your web site doesn't have new valuable data to present to the spider when they come, they might think nothing new is happening at your site.

This might be one of the many factors Google uses to rank sites but I've hear through informed friends it's a bigger factor now.