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04-26-2006, 10:58 AM
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DMOZ Listing Penalty
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=v7+inc
I noticed this a while back, and it is really starting to get me down.
Google is using the title from DMOZ listing instead of the page title on the indexed page.
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<TITLE>V7 Quality Web Hosting - Voted Best Host of the Year</TITLE>
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That page title gets clicks and converts.
But Google shows it as:
And they are getting that from DMOZ.
Same thing is happening on this search.
Instead of using the actual page title, which mentions "discount", it just uses the DMOZ listing title.
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04-26-2006, 11:22 AM
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04-26-2006, 11:23 AM
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LOL
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04-26-2006, 11:35 AM
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Even though it's showing the DMOZ title does it take into consideration the KW's used in the "proper" title?
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04-26-2006, 11:38 AM
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I don't think so. I've noticed so serious ranking changes since this went into effect.
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04-26-2006, 12:34 PM
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Yea, Google and MSN use the DMOZ info for certain searches, but I wouldn't worry about it. Why? Because with other searches your real title and description show. So you get more exposure for different search terms as a result. The problem is when your DMOZ's title and description no longer have anything to do with your site. As we all know, having this info changed is as difficult as getting listed.
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04-26-2006, 12:36 PM
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Well, that change screwed v7inc.com. It was in the top ten for "quality web hosting" before that.
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04-26-2006, 08:52 PM
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Wow, very interesting... this is good to know.
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05-05-2006, 08:23 AM
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This kind of results in Google (using DMOZ titles an descriptions for a site) have been seen for several months. It seems that Google uses DMOZ information if it can’t find any trustworthy information on the site itself. Spammy repeated text is one of those non-trustworthy things on a site. Just look at the source of v7 site and you will understand what I mean (title, description, keywords). It is just a reaction to all those people wanting to trick Google with SEO techniques.
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05-05-2006, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulX
This kind of results in Google (using DMOZ titles an descriptions for a site) have been seen for several months. It seems that Google uses DMOZ information if it can’t find any trustworthy information on the site itself. Spammy repeated text is one of those non-trustworthy things on a site. Just look at the source of v7 site and you will understand what I mean (title, description, keywords). It is just a reaction to all those people wanting to trick Google with SEO techniques.
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Google is using the page title from the page:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=v7inc
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V7 Quality Web Hosting - Voted Best Host of the YearV7 Hosting. Voted Best Host of the Year. Toll free phone support. 30 day money back customer satisfaction guarantee.
www.v7inc.com/ - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
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Have any case studies to support your theory, Paul?
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05-05-2006, 08:41 AM
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Wooops. From the looks of it your not the Paul I know. Maybe try an even better username. 
As stated your Orlady is getting Dumber.
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05-05-2006, 11:00 AM
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Yes I noticed this several months ago myself and its only for certain searches.
When I search my main KW it shows DMOZ when i search the website name it shows the title?
I wish google would go back to the title cause this has messed me up as well with ranking and to get somone in DMOZ to change your title is like pulling teeth
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05-05-2006, 12:49 PM
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I was going to tell you my DMoZ hosting listing didn't do that but I just found out it got droped from DMOZ Do they drop sites after register changes?
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05-06-2006, 08:53 PM
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Google is only listing my dmoz title and not indexing my homepage (only my homepage)
No idea why. My site is ranked in top 10 on other search engines (okay, top 12 on yahoo) for its main keyword.
Other pages on my site rank in top ten on google for other search terms.
But homepage has vanished....
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05-06-2006, 09:47 PM
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hmmm. Google.. "don't be evil." DMOZ... is evil...
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07-25-2006, 10:11 PM
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I have the same problem with one of my sites..
May be it can help?
<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">
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07-26-2006, 12:28 AM
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Google is now allowing a meta tag to prevent the use of the dmoz description
Insert the following tag in your HEAD section of the HTML code to stop Google from using the DMOZ description:
<meta name=”ROBOTS” content=”NOODP”>
source - just one of them...
http://www.pandia.com/sew/251-dmoz-m...scription.html |
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07-26-2006, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WebSkyGuide
I have the same problem with one of my sites..
May be it can help?
<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">
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ah! you beat me to it!
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07-27-2006, 04:19 AM
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NOODP Tag worked for one of my sites too. Thanx a lot!
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07-27-2006, 07:18 AM
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Been using it for a few weeks and yes it works well.
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