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05-10-2006, 12:09 PM
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Does Google use whois info?
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05-10-2006, 12:30 PM
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I bought a v7ndotcom elursrebmem domain name and as soon as it was transfer to me google drop listing and all info on site had page 1 listing for v7ndotcom elursrebmem directory and page 8 for v7ndotcom elursrebmem
all I did was add a forum run on my seocontest.net/forum and the transfer
a search on the domain name www.dotcomelursrebmem.com show no info avalible I am going to move to a new server and removed the articles as they may be the problem already remove forum links
has been like this for a few weeks
another domain name I bought was not effected by transfer www.v7nelursrebmem.com
Last edited by netsearch : 05-10-2006 at 12:33 PM.
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05-10-2006, 12:43 PM
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Interesting stuff to say the least.
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05-10-2006, 12:53 PM
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I don't think they use whois info as a ranking factor. And i don't think it's in their interest either to collect such kinds of info from websites. Have to read the full article anyway, seems interesting.
(No wonder why my girlfriend Julie here is so excited with the topic) 
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05-12-2006, 08:23 AM
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I think DMOZ may John 
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05-12-2006, 11:00 AM
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I think Google uses its own data for how long a domain has been registered as part of it 100’s of calculations related to trust rank. Why would they need an outside source?
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05-13-2006, 02:56 PM
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I would imagine that Google uses the whois data to identify networks, possibly for reasons other than how Alexa presents "See other sites owned" in the Related Info
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05-13-2006, 04:21 PM
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Damn I love that Alexa rank. It just keeps going up. 
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05-13-2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashvin
I don't think they use whois info as a ranking factor. And i don't think it's in their interest either to collect such kinds of info from websites. Have to read the full article anyway, seems interesting.
(No wonder why my girlfriend Julie here is so excited with the topic) 
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You better be referring to some other Julie... 
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05-13-2006, 06:19 PM
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There's no doubt they use whois info. They even care about the quality of the domain that hosts the whois info. And, register your domain for 10 years and you'll get points for not being a fly-by-night.
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05-15-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CarolineBogart
And, register your domain for 10 years and you'll get points for not being a fly-by-night.
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Without sounding rude :p was this a joke or are you serious? Surely Google don't go to this length??
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05-15-2006, 04:31 PM
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Their patent indicates that they have the technology to do so.
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05-15-2006, 04:38 PM
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On the point of the length of period you have bought a domain name for though - surely that's not monitored and used for Trust Rank or whatever people are calling it nowadays.
I can understand the whois information more.
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05-15-2006, 04:41 PM
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Darren, I wouldn't be surprised if they did use it. Google is known for jumping the gun and implementing wierdness.
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05-15-2006, 04:48 PM
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Good point John - think I'm going to renew my domain name for another 10 years 
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05-17-2006, 01:32 AM
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United States Patent Application 20050071741
Information retrieval based on historical data
Notable Inventors: Matt Cutts Monika Henzinger
[0099] Certain signals may be used to distinguish between illegitimate and legitimate domains. For example, domains can be renewed up to a period of 10 years. Valuable (legitimate) domains are often paid for several years in advance, while doorway (illegitimate) domains rarely are used for more than a year. Therefore, the date when a domain expires in the future can be used as a factor in predicting the legitimacy of a domain and, thus, the documents associated therewith..
[100] Also, or alternatively, the domain name server (DNS) record for a domain may be monitored to predict whether a domain is legitimate. The DNS record contains details of who registered the domain, administrative and technical addresses, and the addresses of name servers (i.e., servers that resolve the domain name into an IP address). By analyzing this data over time for a domain, illegitimate domains may be identified. For instance, search engine 125 may monitor whether physically correct address information exists over a period of time, whether contact information for the domain changes relatively often, whether there is a relatively high number of changes between different name servers and hosting companies, etc. In one implementation, a list of known-bad contact information, name servers, and/or IP addresses may be identified, stored, and used in predicting the legitimacy of a domain and, thus, the documents associated therewith.
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