Google Webspam Update a.k.a. Penguin Update

[snakeair]

Originally Posted by HTMLBasicTutor

If you had read the whole thread, Matt Cutts has tweeted that they are taking complaints about spammers ranking and people being knocked out that should not have been.

Perhaps they will make adjustments. What I was asking is if anyone had heard from reliable sources that any adjustments have been made.

I have been out all day. Haven't checked my RSS feeds yet.

Sorry i can't find any info about any adjustment's. I'm sure we might here something this week. It's the weekend so Matt Cutts can come up with a game plan

[HTMLBasicTutor]

BTW:
I have a site that the traffic for the 25th - 27th has been cut in half so far. (have not checked for today. And this is from my server logs, not Google anything)

There are tonnes of spammy comments left on the site where they enter the site via a certain page according to my logs.

I just checked. That term is #5 on google.com #15 on google.ca.

Sooo, this is what I am thinking happen to that traffic. The page where they were coming from got dropped. No biggy. Less work deleting spam. Possibly my traffic figures were inflated previously but now shows the true traffic.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by snakeair

Sorry i can't find any info about any adjustment's. I'm sure we might here something this week. It's the weekend so Matt Cutts can come up with a game plan

Matt CuttsApr 27, 2012 - Mobile - Public
Have you tried doing a Google search for zerg rush?

Mr. Cutt's last post on Google+ appears to show his affinity for video games.

[HTMLBasicTutor]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

Matt CuttsApr 27, 2012 - Mobile - Public
Have you tried doing a Google search for zerg rush?

Mr. Cutt's last post on Google+ appears to show his affinity for video games.

What of it?
He posted this at 5:17 pm on a Friday afternoon:

Originally Posted by HTMLBasicTutor

from Matts Cutts Twitter feed:

http://twitter.com/#!/mattcutts/stat...30426513547264 5:17 PM - 27 Apr 12

a ) He is entitled to have a life outside work.

b ) Just because he isn't tweeting every 5 mins about this issue does not mean they are not reviewing all the submissions they have gotten. Can you imagine how many there are to look through?

c ) You'd be hard pressed to find anyone working past 4:00 p.m. on a Friday in around where I live. Been there done that. Customer calls at 4:00 Friday with a crisis affecting my crew at 8:00 a.m. Monday morning. Good luck trying to get a hold of suppliers or even the Forman at that time.

I'm not sticking up for Google. Something is obviously wrong when legit sites get knocked out after an update comes along.

But....

Have you considered that something you did in the past is now coming back to haunt you? Blasting your articles around creating duplicate content. Buying/trading/spamming your links everywhere and now those pages have been dumped. Relying on one search engine or method of getting your name out there.

I have been conversing with someone on another forum that this is what appears to have happened to him. All those things are now coming back to haunt him.

[Marksns]

I have read with the new penguin update that your important content needs to be above the fold.
Can someone tell me what this means?

[stephengfm]

The fold must(???) be the part of your web-blog page that occurs above the squiggly line that google shows as an image in google's search engine results.

[HTMLBasicTutor]

Originally Posted by Marksns

I have read with the new penguin update that your important content needs to be above the fold.
Can someone tell me what this means?

Above the fold comes from newspaper days. When they folded the paper and the main headlines where on the side of the paper you see in the news stands.

For the web the fold is a little harder to determine. The exact fold line moves up or down as everyone has different monitors. Above the fold on the web means the top section on your web page when they arrive at the page.

Tidbit: Everyone that arrives on a page can see the top left corner of your webpage (unless they clicked an anchored link). How much to the right and down they see is determined by their monitor and how big they have their browser opened. Not everyone surfs with their browser fully open.

[Manish Pandey]

I'll wait a few days and let Google do the job of creating a fix which will help good sites to be on top. Currently, I see anchor-text ridden (topical or non-topical) sites on top for every keyword I search.

[snakeair]

I hope you know that if they do make some fix's the Google team has to talk about it first to make sure they doing the right thing. Matt Cutts can't say something and 2 minutes later the rollout happens. He isn't god but Google tries to be. O wait, i should of posted this in the evil thread.

Calm down folks, tweaks will happen as more and more negative feedback is coming out online. The more negative feedback, perhaps the better the tweak they will make.

[ishuvonet]

Well some of my sites already been hit by Penguin update.It seems Google deindexed lots of my backlinks specially the links I built through Angela & paul backlink packets.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by ishuvonet

Well some of my sites already been hit by Penguin update.It seems Google deindexed lots of my backlinks specially the links I built through Angela & paul backlink packets.

That's what Google is trying to do is stop paid for links.

[snakeair]

The web directory industry a couple of years ago was very big and lot's of paid directories made a ton of money in a short time span. Google nailed this industry hard and there still a few high quality directories that still doing great but this industry has never been the same.

I've always stayed clear of buying links because i'd rather get a link the free way by not spamming. To many people have there mind set of getting ranked well in a short time span and take shortcuts to only find out they get whacked by google or the sites they bought a link to got de-indexed.

[snakeair]

Before i sneak out of here for a little bit, i'd like to share this blog post first.

Are you angry and looking for answers about why your rankings vanished after Google released its Penguin update? One common factor thus far appears to be the signals of links that are pointing to your website, early analysis indicates.

The main purpose of the Penguin update is to put a deep freeze on web spam in Google's search results. By extension, a big piece of that web spam appears to be links from low-quality networks.

Natural Links

Before we get into the new findings, first it’s important to understand a bit about Google and links.

Above all, Google considers links as editorial "votes". So, theoretically, the sites that receive the most votes should rank higher on Google because more people find them valuable.

Google analyzes the quantity, quality, and relevance of websites that link to yours. When Google looks at your link profile, they’re looking at such things as what types of websites link to yours, how quickly you....

Continued at: http://searchenginewatch.com/article...ected-Websites

[Brave7]

@Snakeair

As mentionned in Search engine watch: "a big piece of that web spam appears to be links from low-quality networks" There is no way to start over my 7 years old external link profile, plus many people linking to your site is impossible to control.

I think Google will disgust a lot of webmasters and I am sure they will not roll out anything. Like I said ealier, it is the call of many webmasters to get out of Google monopoly.

Google did this update for a reason and they are certainely not philanthropic. The only reason is obsiouly making more money to please their shareolders. They don't care about their users or the user experience that hey fanatically promote.

If they were really telling the truth, their index would not have so many spams, irrelevant queries, brainwash people with their brands cronyism on the top of every pages, and cheat their users with a fraudulent blend between their adwords system and organic site rankings.

[snakeair]

I was just reading this a few seconds ago.

Last week, Google gave frustrated webmasters a place to complain if they felt they were unjustly hit by the Penguin update. While I’m sure Google has received plenty of feedback through that, some are gravitating towards a petition to get Google to kill the Penguin update.

For those of you who haven’t been following, Google announced the Penguin update (formerly known as the “Webspam update”) on April 24th, to target sites violating Google’s quality guidelines.

Here’s what the petition says:

Continued at: http://www.webpronews.com/google-pen...ill-it-2012-04

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by snakeair

I was just reading this a few seconds ago.



Continued at: http://www.webpronews.com/google-pen...ill-it-2012-04

The real complaint that could be efficient is the FTC at: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

If is going to be like Microsoft in 1981 with the FTC, perhaps Google may change their policy.

Interesting article from your link Snakeair:
U.S. Escalates Google Case by Hiring Noted Outside Lawyer
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/te...agewanted=1&hp

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

The real complaint that could be efficient is the FTC at: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

If is going to be like Microsoft in 1981 with the FTC, perhaps Google may change their policy.

Interesting article from your link Snakeair:
U.S. Escalates Google Case by Hiring Noted Outside Lawyer
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/te...agewanted=1&hp

I have experience in anti-trust cases from previous work experience. Nothing Google will do at this point will slow down the F.T.C. So Google won't make any changes at this point. The process will drag out for years until the bleeding of legal fees at Google forces them into a settlement.

Google may end up paying 100's of millions of dollars defending the forces aligned up against them.

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

Google may end up paying 100's of millions of dollars defending the forces aligned up against them.

If I remember correctly, Microsoft took 10 years to recover from the settlement with the FTC and the stock took a big slap.

All of these corporations understand only money and should be punished by memoriable fines. They are not better off these evil banks. By the way, I will be not surprised if their lenders are the Goldman Sachs gang and Co.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

If I remember correctly, Microsoft took 10 years to recover from the settlement with the FTC and the stock took a big slap.

All of these corporations understand only money and should be punished by memoriable fines. They are not better off these evil banks. By the way, I will be not surprised if their lenders are the Goldman Sachs gang and Co.

The fines are nothing.

The legal fees in defending these actions are the penalty to a corporation. I'm quite serious when I say 100's of millions of dollars in legal fees and costs.

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

The fines are nothing.

The legal fees in defending these actions are the penalty to a corporation. I'm quite serious when I say 100's of millions of dollars in legal fees and costs.

Fines are nothing in US for these corporations because most gov entities are bought by the lobbystes aka corporations.

I remember that Microsoft paid a fine of $1.5 billion in Europe, perhaps they should do the same with Google.