Google Just Made Bing the Best Search Engine

[RyanWasHere]

Every company have their period of rise, stagnation and eventual downfall. Google is no exception, rivals with new and better technologies will eventually come.

[divineforever]

After a week of Google update, I noticed Bing's serps changing.It seemed to go in sync with Penguine. My research then led me to this page http://searchengineland.com/google-b...-results-62914

Google’s test suggests that when Bing has many of the traditional signals, as is likely for popular search topics, it relies mostly on those. But in cases where Bing has fewer trustworthy signals, such as “long tail” searches that bring up fewer matches, then Bing might lean more on how Google ranks pages for those searches.

I switched to DuckDuckGo. It is the best search engine for finding contents since it has some kind of deep hatred towards e-commerce sites...and spams. One of its pages is dedicated to a protest against Google and Bing. It gives ample evidence that those two manipulate serps. You will find it here http://dontbubble.us/

[Asifdilshad1]

No offence and I am not defending Google however
You may argue about the Google way to fighting spam but if we not stop playing with its quality guidelines and algorithms Google launch more and more updates because its ultimate Goal is to give what user want.
I agreed that this Penguin update have many flaws and I am 100% sure they are doing something to roll out penguin 1.2 or 2.0 something to cover this problem.
User does not care about any update they only want a useful content that they are searching so Google hit with more power in future.
You shift your Search Engine but more than 60% user still search on Google.

Originally Posted by googlesuccess

Google has been very evil lately ... they started banning adsense publishers for no reasons and pocketed all the money, the Panda update was to some extent tolerable .. but this Penguin update is just a piece of ****. Sites with a few spammy pages without any backlinks are ranking on the top page and sites with real good content and strong backlinks (votes) are pushed down so that nobody can find them. Anything that is evil will meet its natural death .. and so will Google. I have also changed my default search engine to Bing now .. I hope Microsoft takes this opportunity to make bing better and introduce a strong alternative to adsense.

[Stuart Mackenzie]

I have read many of the posts with great interest. Up until now I have thought that Google is the only show in town but from these posts it would appear that many marketers are migrating to Bing.

As my Internet marketing career is still in its infancy I would be most pleased to receive any observations and advice as to which search engine I should focus upon for a new online business. Many thanks

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by RyanWasHere

Every company have their period of rise, stagnation and eventual downfall. Google is no exception, rivals with new and better technologies will eventually come.

This is not true... many companies dont fall and many have been around forever and are still killing it. In the case of the internet many people dont even type google. They just go straight to the search in their Firefox, Mobile device or google Chrome and walla they are using Googles search.Google is powerful and are not going anywhere so get used to it.

[Albert Tai]

Originally Posted by Donnie

This is not true... many companies dont fall and many have been around forever and are still killing it. In the case of the internet many people dont even type google. They just go straight to the search in their Firefox, Mobile device or google Chrome and walla they are using Googles search.Google is powerful and are not going anywhere so get used to it.

There is going to be a time for each company...maybe a century...maybe more but always there is a time. Maybe not bankrupt or nonexistent but maybe decline.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Albert Tai

There is going to be a time for each company...maybe a century...maybe more but always there is a time. Maybe not bankrupt or nonexistent but maybe decline.

List of companies no longer in existence: since the year 2000. I've highlighted the notable ones IMO.

2000
3dfx Interactive
ADK Corporation
Boo.com
Bung Enterprises[note 9]
The Equitable Life Assurance Society
Lamonts
Lernout & Hauspie
LTV Steel
MyLackey.com
Netter Digital
Pets.com
Pixelon [39]
Sogo[40]
Theatre Royal, Hanley (with Mike Lloyd Music)[note 10][31]
Urban Bank
[edit]2001
Ansett Australia
Bethlehem Steel
Bimota [41]
Bradlees
Canada 3000
Capital Artists
Converse
Dinamic Multimedia
Enron
Extreme Championship Wrestling[note 11]
Grand Royal
HIH Insurance
HomeBase
International Sport and Leisure[42]
Kozmo.com
Marcos
Montgomery Ward
Mycal[40]
Northwestern Steel and Wire
One.Tel
Polaroid Corporation
Ready2shop.com
Rhythms NetConnections
Sabena
Schwinn Bicycle Company (with GT Bicycles)
SNK Playmore
Sunbeam Products
Tommy Kaira
Trans World Airlines
Webvan
World Championship Wrestling[note 12]
Zany Brainy
[edit]2002
Adelphia
Ames Department Stores Inc.
Arthur Andersen
Asiatech
Charles Jourdan
Claims Direct[43]
Compile
Connolly Leather
EBONE
Global Crossing
Hummingbird Photo
Imai Science[44]
ITV Digital
Jensen Motors
Kirch Group
KPNQwest
Mattress Discounters[45]
Napster
Prost Grand Prix
Railtrack
Reynard Motorsport
Swissair
Tom Walkinshaw Racing and Arrows [note 13]
Troutman's Emporium
WorldCom
[edit]2003
The 3DO Company
The Accident Group[46]
Baninter
Bethlehem Steel
CART
Corbin Motors
Data East
divine
Italjet[47]
Khalifa Airways
Loral Space & Communications
Parmalat
Spiegel
UT Models[48]
[edit]2004
Acclaim Entertainment
Arc Flashlight
Argonaut Games
Atlas Air
Auction World.tv
Banham Conversions
Bess Eaton
Courts plc[49]
De Tomaso
Flying Finn
ATA Holdings (ATA Airlines, ATA Cargo, ATA Leisure Corp, ATA Training Corp, Amber Travel, Chicago Express Airlines, ExecuJet)
Ilford Photo
Kaneko
Mondial
Murray Ohio Manufacturing Company
Parma F.C.[50]
Speed Star Wheels[note 14]
Titus Software
Volare Group (Volareweb.com, Air Europe)

[edit]2005
AgfaPhoto
All:sports [51]
Allders
ASARCO
Atkins Nutritionals
Bburago
EUjet
Granville Technology Group[note 15]
The Hit Factory
Hornchurch F.C.
Jetsgo
MG Rover Group
Music and Video Club[52]
Red Letter Days
Refco
Roco
West Coast Computers
Unwins[52]
[edit]2006
Air Wales
Amaranth Advisors
Bayou Hedge Fund Group
Challenge Business[note 16]
Dublin City F.C.
Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk (LGB trains)
European Home Retail
Golden Wonder
Independence Air
Lik Sang[note 17]
Motorex[note 18][53][54]
Musicland
Runcorn F.C. Halton
Silver Screen[52]
Soder Airlines
TeGenero[note 19]
Tiger Telematics
Tower Records
l
[edit]2007
American Freedom Mortgage
American Home Mortgage
Amp'd Mobile
Benjys
Bombay Company
Choices UK[55]
Columbia Aircraft
CompUSA
Enfield F.C.
Evesham Technology
Fopp
Kwik Save
Marcos
MAXjet Airways
Media Rings
Metronet
Moonshine Music
Music Zone
NetBank
New Century
Nova
Remnant Media
Scarborough F.C.
Sentinel Management Group
spinART Records
Terra Securities
Topps Meat Company
[edit]2008
Allco Finance Group
Aloha Airlines
Amtrak Express Parcels
Apex Aircraft
ATA Airlines
Australian School of Business and Technology[56]
Bennigan's
Bill Heard Enterprises
Buffets, Inc.
Circuit City Stores[note 20][57][58]
Coast Air
Commander Communications
Countrywide Financial
Dawahares
Dolcis Shoes
eos Airlines
FreshXpress
Frontier Airlines
Gamley's
Glitnir[note 21]
Gretna F.C.
Halifax Town A.F.C.
Harold's
Holley Performance Products[59]
IndyMac Bank
iQon Technologies
Kaupthing Bank[note 22]
Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander[note 23]
Krispy Kreme Hong Kong[60]
Landsbanki[note 24]
Lehman Brothers[note 25]
Lenox
Levitz Furniture[61]
Lillian Vernon
Linens 'n Things[62]
Luton Town F.C.
Madoff Investment Securities
Mattress Discounters[45]
Meguro Sushi[63]
Mervyns[58]
MFI Group
Montres Villemont[64][note 26]
Morgan UK[65]
Motorworld[66]
Nationwide Airlines
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines
The Officers Club[67][68]
Olan Mills[69]
Opes Prime
Peau Vavaʻu
Photo-Optix[70][note 27]
Pilgrim's Pride
RC Developments[71]
Rosebys
Rotherham United F.C.
Sanlu Group
The Sharper Image[72]
Shoe Pavilion[73]
Silver State Helicopters
Silverjet
Skybus Airlines
Super Aguri F1[74]
Tai Lin Radio Service[75]
Tribune Company
Tropicana Entertainment
Tuctuc Ltd[76]
Tweeter[77]
U-Right[78][note 28]
USC[79]
Value City
VeraSun Energy
Vivitar
Wachovia
Washington Mutual
WCI Communities
Wickes Furniture
Wilsons Leather
WiQuest Communications
Woolworths Group
XL Airways UK
Yamato Life
Zavvi[80]
Ziff Davis
Zoom Airlines
[edit]2009
3D Realms
A1 Grand Prix Operations[81]
AbitibiBowater
Allied Carpets
Apex Silver Mines
Arcandor
Babcock & Brown
Bashas'
BearingPoint
Berkhamsted Town F.C.
Boater's World
Borders UK
Central Park Media
Charter Communications
Christian Lacroix[82]
CIT Group
Colonial Bancgroup
Crabtree & Evelyn
Darlington F.C.
Denver Newspaper Agency
Empire Direct
Extended Stay Hotels
Escada
Fisher Athletic F.C.
First Quench Retailing
Fleetwood Enterprises
FlyLal
Fortunoff
Goody's Family Clothing
Gottschalks
Hartmarx
Idearc
G.I. Joe's
Journal Register Company
Karmann[83]
KB Toys
Land of Leather[84]
LDV Group
FK Lyn
LyondellBasell
Magna Entertainment Corp.
Märklin
Merisant
Midway Games
Monaco Coach Corporation
Nortel
Peanut Corporation of America
Philadelphia Media Holdings[85]
Qimonda
Reader's Digest Association
R. H. Donnelley
Ritz Camera Centers
SeeqPod
Send the Light
SETA Corporation
Setanta Sports
SFCG Co.
Silicon Graphics
Smurfit-Stone Container
Spansion
Spectrum Brands
SPV GmbH
SsangYong Motor Company [note 29][86]
Stanford Financial Group
Station Casinos
Steve & Barry's
Strathfield[87]
Stylo
Sun-Times Media Group
Taylor, Bean & Whitaker
Tronox
Trump Entertainment Resorts
Viyella
Waterford Wedgwood[88]
Young Broadcasting
[edit]2010–present

[edit]2010
Adams Childrenwear
Air America Radio
Bidtopia
Blockbuster Inc.
Canwest
HFC Haarlem
Hollywood Video
Pontin's
[edit]2011
4Kids Entertainment
AJWright
Borders Group
Focus DIY
Habitat
Hawkin's Bazaar
HomeForm Group
Oddbins
Syms Corporation
Ultimate Electronics
News of the World

[edit]2012
SeaFrance
Malév Hungarian Airlines
Rangers F.C.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_business_failures

[apoguy]

2 days ago, after no algo update (the penguin update even took us to the top) we were outranked by a backdoor page, YES! a backdoor page. Title, description any other meta is just keyword stuffing and the site? IT'S AN IFRAME! that just points to another Website that isn't ranked at all! How is that possible?

Google just sucks lately. They are focused on social now and trying to get the users stay in their site, but they are a search engine, people don't want to go to google to search, find and then turn off their computers! at least not me. Bing seems much more accurate now. We are ranked 2nd for our main keyword and changing 2 - 3 - 2 but with legit sites above us. That backdoor isn't even there, so it is clearly a Google glitch.

Tested duckduckgo.com too, much better, no personalized search no social, just plain and simple search.

I really don't care if my sister's friend liked a page when I search for something for me!

I officially hate google now.

[martz45]

There's an algo update yesterday. My traffic increased, but my search rankings is still the same. I don't know if this is some analytic trick.

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Albert Tai

There is going to be a time for each company...maybe a century...maybe more but always there is a time. Maybe not bankrupt or nonexistent but maybe decline.

So you ar saying that they dont fall? or they half fall? Maybe they trip? and maybe they don't?


And for the quote below, I must say very impressive list. Can you also get the other list? the One with Apple, Microsoft, our government all the banks, and a bunch of other companies that have been around since the beginning of this countries existence.

Now im not saying that most dont fall. Most eventually do. What i am saying is some monsters never do. Just look at Wal-Mart or AT&T they are not going anywhere.

The difference between Google and all the companies above is Google expanded and spread their eggs around the world, instead of one basket. Google is successful from more then just its search engine nowadays.

Originally Posted by stephengfm

List of companies no longer in existence: since the year 2000. I've highlighted the notable ones IMO.

2000
3dfx Interactive
ADK Corporation
Boo.com
Bung Enterprises[note 9]
The Equitable Life Assurance Society
Lamonts
Lernout & Hauspie
LTV Steel
MyLackey.com
Netter Digital
Pets.com
Pixelon [39]
Sogo[40]
Theatre Royal, Hanley (with Mike Lloyd Music)[note 10][31]
Urban Bank
[edit]2001
Ansett Australia
Bethlehem Steel
Bimota [41]
Bradlees
Canada 3000
Capital Artists
Converse
Dinamic Multimedia
Enron
Extreme Championship Wrestling[note 11]
Grand Royal
HIH Insurance
HomeBase
International Sport and Leisure[42]
Kozmo.com
Marcos
Montgomery Ward
Mycal[40]
Northwestern Steel and Wire
One.Tel
Polaroid Corporation
Ready2shop.com
Rhythms NetConnections
Sabena
Schwinn Bicycle Company (with GT Bicycles)
SNK Playmore
Sunbeam Products
Tommy Kaira
Trans World Airlines
Webvan
World Championship Wrestling[note 12]
Zany Brainy
[edit]2002
Adelphia
Ames Department Stores Inc.
Arthur Andersen
Asiatech
Charles Jourdan
Claims Direct[43]
Compile
Connolly Leather
EBONE
Global Crossing
Hummingbird Photo
Imai Science[44]
ITV Digital
Jensen Motors
Kirch Group
KPNQwest
Mattress Discounters[45]
Napster
Prost Grand Prix
Railtrack
Reynard Motorsport
Swissair
Tom Walkinshaw Racing and Arrows [note 13]
Troutman's Emporium
WorldCom
[edit]2003
The 3DO Company
The Accident Group[46]
Baninter
Bethlehem Steel
CART
Corbin Motors
Data East
divine
Italjet[47]
Khalifa Airways
Loral Space & Communications
Parmalat
Spiegel
UT Models[48]
[edit]2004
Acclaim Entertainment
Arc Flashlight
Argonaut Games
Atlas Air
Auction World.tv
Banham Conversions
Bess Eaton
Courts plc[49]
De Tomaso
Flying Finn
ATA Holdings (ATA Airlines, ATA Cargo, ATA Leisure Corp, ATA Training Corp, Amber Travel, Chicago Express Airlines, ExecuJet)
Ilford Photo
Kaneko
Mondial
Murray Ohio Manufacturing Company
Parma F.C.[50]
Speed Star Wheels[note 14]
Titus Software
Volare Group (Volareweb.com, Air Europe)

[edit]2005
AgfaPhoto
All:sports [51]
Allders
ASARCO
Atkins Nutritionals
Bburago
EUjet
Granville Technology Group[note 15]
The Hit Factory
Hornchurch F.C.
Jetsgo
MG Rover Group
Music and Video Club[52]
Red Letter Days
Refco
Roco
West Coast Computers
Unwins[52]
[edit]2006
Air Wales
Amaranth Advisors
Bayou Hedge Fund Group
Challenge Business[note 16]
Dublin City F.C.
Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk (LGB trains)
European Home Retail
Golden Wonder
Independence Air
Lik Sang[note 17]
Motorex[note 18][53][54]
Musicland
Runcorn F.C. Halton
Silver Screen[52]
Soder Airlines
TeGenero[note 19]
Tiger Telematics
Tower Records
l
[edit]2007
American Freedom Mortgage
American Home Mortgage
Amp'd Mobile
Benjys
Bombay Company
Choices UK[55]
Columbia Aircraft
CompUSA
Enfield F.C.
Evesham Technology
Fopp
Kwik Save
Marcos
MAXjet Airways
Media Rings
Metronet
Moonshine Music
Music Zone
NetBank
New Century
Nova
Remnant Media
Scarborough F.C.
Sentinel Management Group
spinART Records
Terra Securities
Topps Meat Company
[edit]2008
Allco Finance Group
Aloha Airlines
Amtrak Express Parcels
Apex Aircraft
ATA Airlines
Australian School of Business and Technology[56]
Bennigan's
Bill Heard Enterprises
Buffets, Inc.
Circuit City Stores[note 20][57][58]
Coast Air
Commander Communications
Countrywide Financial
Dawahares
Dolcis Shoes
eos Airlines
FreshXpress
Frontier Airlines
Gamley's
Glitnir[note 21]
Gretna F.C.
Halifax Town A.F.C.
Harold's
Holley Performance Products[59]
IndyMac Bank
iQon Technologies
Kaupthing Bank[note 22]
Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander[note 23]
Krispy Kreme Hong Kong[60]
Landsbanki[note 24]
Lehman Brothers[note 25]
Lenox
Levitz Furniture[61]
Lillian Vernon
Linens 'n Things[62]
Luton Town F.C.
Madoff Investment Securities
Mattress Discounters[45]
Meguro Sushi[63]
Mervyns[58]
MFI Group
Montres Villemont[64][note 26]
Morgan UK[65]
Motorworld[66]
Nationwide Airlines
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines
The Officers Club[67][68]
Olan Mills[69]
Opes Prime
Peau Vavaʻu
Photo-Optix[70][note 27]
Pilgrim's Pride
RC Developments[71]
Rosebys
Rotherham United F.C.
Sanlu Group
The Sharper Image[72]
Shoe Pavilion[73]
Silver State Helicopters
Silverjet
Skybus Airlines
Super Aguri F1[74]
Tai Lin Radio Service[75]
Tribune Company
Tropicana Entertainment
Tuctuc Ltd[76]
Tweeter[77]
U-Right[78][note 28]
USC[79]
Value City
VeraSun Energy
Vivitar
Wachovia
Washington Mutual
WCI Communities
Wickes Furniture
Wilsons Leather
WiQuest Communications
Woolworths Group
XL Airways UK
Yamato Life
Zavvi[80]
Ziff Davis
Zoom Airlines
[edit]2009
3D Realms
A1 Grand Prix Operations[81]
AbitibiBowater
Allied Carpets
Apex Silver Mines
Arcandor
Babcock & Brown
Bashas'
BearingPoint
Berkhamsted Town F.C.
Boater's World
Borders UK
Central Park Media
Charter Communications
Christian Lacroix[82]
CIT Group
Colonial Bancgroup
Crabtree & Evelyn
Darlington F.C.
Denver Newspaper Agency
Empire Direct
Extended Stay Hotels
Escada
Fisher Athletic F.C.
First Quench Retailing
Fleetwood Enterprises
FlyLal
Fortunoff
Goody's Family Clothing
Gottschalks
Hartmarx
Idearc
G.I. Joe's
Journal Register Company
Karmann[83]
KB Toys
Land of Leather[84]
LDV Group
FK Lyn
LyondellBasell
Magna Entertainment Corp.
Märklin
Merisant
Midway Games
Monaco Coach Corporation
Nortel
Peanut Corporation of America
Philadelphia Media Holdings[85]
Qimonda
Reader's Digest Association
R. H. Donnelley
Ritz Camera Centers
SeeqPod
Send the Light
SETA Corporation
Setanta Sports
SFCG Co.
Silicon Graphics
Smurfit-Stone Container
Spansion
Spectrum Brands
SPV GmbH
SsangYong Motor Company [note 29][86]
Stanford Financial Group
Station Casinos
Steve & Barry's
Strathfield[87]
Stylo
Sun-Times Media Group
Taylor, Bean & Whitaker
Tronox
Trump Entertainment Resorts
Viyella
Waterford Wedgwood[88]
Young Broadcasting
[edit]2010–present

[edit]2010
Adams Childrenwear
Air America Radio
Bidtopia
Blockbuster Inc.
Canwest
HFC Haarlem
Hollywood Video
Pontin's
[edit]2011
4Kids Entertainment
AJWright
Borders Group
Focus DIY
Habitat
Hawkin's Bazaar
HomeForm Group
Oddbins
Syms Corporation
Ultimate Electronics
News of the World

[edit]2012
SeaFrance
Malév Hungarian Airlines
Rangers F.C.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_business_failures

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Donnie

Can you also get the other list? the One with Apple, Microsoft, our government all the banks, and a bunch of other companies that have been around since the beginning of this countries existence.

Now im not saying that most dont fall. Most eventually do. What i am saying is some monsters never do. Just look at Wal-Mart or AT&T they are not going anywhere.

Apple founded - 1976 - Not even 50 years old
Wal-Mart founded 1962 - a bit older
AT&T Reorganized 2005 - very new (AT&T was broken up by the government probably before you were born!)
Microsoft - 1975 - slightly older than Apple

Bank of America HAS not been around forever - though the original bank was founded in 1905, it was a failing bank in California before Nationsbank bought it.

Do you really think the government was founded in 1905? or 1976?

I know you're young but did you ever study history?

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

Apple founded - 1976 - Not even 50 years old
Wal-Mart founded 1962 - a bit older
AT&T Reorganized 2005 - very new (AT&T was broken up by the government probably before you were born!)
Microsoft - 1975 - slightly older than Apple

Bank of America HAS not been around forever - though the original bank was founded in 1905, it was a failing bank in California before Nationsbank bought it.

Do you really think the government was founded in 1905? or 1976?

I know you're young but did you ever study history?

Apple is one of the first computers out. It reinvented our world. All these assumptions of empires falling is in our history. However we cannot predict the future. We do know what the world has in store for the computer age. Oh and if you are a history major stick to the past. I try to stay present and realistic.

oh and...
look at these guys?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiling_Hill_Farm

Or these Guys?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...870230,00.html

They have little to no power in comparison to Google. Google can buy all of them out with a flick of a finger.

We are in a computer/networking age! not a "look Bam Bam found land!"


For the record. I am a high school drop out I dont need school I have Google.

[nathan.joshua]

Originally Posted by Donnie

The difference between Google and all the companies above is Google expanded and spread their eggs around the world, instead of one basket. Google is successful from more then just its search engine nowadays.

Google is an advertising agency. Their search engines are their money makers.

The Android OS is being whooped by IOS.

Chrome is doing well, but does the same stuff as FF.

G-goggles... lets not get started.


Bing was released in June 2009, below are the stats from then until now compared to Google:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#search_en...-200905-201204

It looks as if Bing has only taken searchers away from 'other search engines', rather than Google to Bing.

I'll try Bing out for a week, if I notice any personal bonus I will switch.

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by nathan.joshua

Google is an advertising agency. Their search engines are their money makers.

The Android OS is being whooped by IOS.

Chrome is doing well, but does the same stuff as FF.

G-goggles... lets not get started.


Bing was released in June 2009, below are the stats from then until now compared to Google:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#search_en...-200905-201204

It looks as if Bing has only taken searchers away from 'other search engines', rather than Google to Bing.

I'll try Bing out for a week, if I notice any personal bonus I will switch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R7yfV6RzE30

Google is just a we bit more then a search engine.

[nathan.joshua]

Originally Posted by Donnie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R7yfV6RzE30

Google is just a we bit more then a search engine.

The video is a little biased, but you've opened my eyes. Thanks for the link