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Old 05-09-2012, 09:58 AM
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Google on the Rampage Against Backlink Profiles

Google Unnatural Links Penalty – A Wake Up Call to Webmasters

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If you haven’t yet heard, Google is on a rampage to “clean up” the webspam created by overly aggressive SEO firms seeking to rank their clients by the use of what Google considers to be “Unnatural Links”. Since February of 2012, Google has sent out over 700,000 warnings through Google Webmaster Tools notifying clients of problems with their link profile.

The Google Webmaster Tools notice occurs when a site is suspected of using link-building efforts that are considered spam. These efforts can include directory submissions, article submissions, and blog and forum comment spam, and particularly links with excessive use of keyword based anchor text, or links from low quality or unrelated sites.
http://highpointseo.com/2012/04/24/g...natural-links/

After having attacked and discounted many types of links, like paid links, directory links, forum signatures, blog comments, link farms, etc., Google now wants you to unlink what they call "low quality links" and "link spam". IMO it is very subjective and really almost impossible to accomplish if you own a site for years.

What they call "low quality links" or "link spam" in many cases don't necessarily represent the quality of the site that people enjoy and so shouldn't be a major factor without looking at other factors.

The funny thing is that Google always want us to build a site for people and not for search engines, but now we have to build a high quality link profile for search engines. ahahahha what a contradiction, they should make up their mind!

What about unscrupulous webmasters linking your site to bad neighbors and what about spammers linking to you? These are some examples to consider removing, but can you?

I think this time Google crossed the line.
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What about unscrupulous webmasters linking your site to bad neighbors and what about spammers linking to you?
Google should first discount all those unscrupulous websites. After facing down that Goliath, the web-spam should disappear?
 
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Google should first discount all those unscrupulous websites. After facing down that Goliath, the web-spam should disappear?
This is just an anecdote: 5 years ago I submitted to a directory just one link and a description, 6 months later I found on the G webmaster tool that the same directory created thousands backlinks. How can you really control this?

That's why the new Google link profile thing is frivolous!
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This is just an anecdote: 5 years ago I submitted to a directory just one link and a description, 6 months later I found on the G webmaster tool that the same directory created thousands backlinks. How can you really control this?

That's why the new Google link profile thing is frivolous!
But you have to link-back from Google+ Profile. It has to be an affirmative action.
 
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They've been sending this notices prior to the Penguin update and trigger some people to perform negative seo targeting a few known websites of the seo gurus, like Dan Thies.
 
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I get the impression that Google's trying to de-emphasize any possibility of gain by having someone
  • -- robo-create thousands of posts via Xrumer,
  • -- a zillion meaningless blog replies via Scrapebox,
  • -- countless spam forum profiles by paying some Daka Bangladesh freelancer that thinks following rules is for others...
  • -- gains by spinning the same content into a boatload of unintelligible forum posts on multiple venues owned by the same guy,
  • -- auto-blogs that scrape content from people who took the time to create it or aggregate forum posts.
  • -- MFA sites that are just created solely as vehicles to toss ads on.
In short, they've declared war on useless crap that contaminates the net with its presence.

They are no doubt going to hit some good sites accidentally, that's the unfortunate nature of algorithms. Computer routines have no eyes or brains.

As they get feedback they'll continue to tweak, but personally I applaud them for the effort.
 
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In short, they've declared war on useless crap that contaminates the net with its presence.

They are no doubt going to hit some good sites accidentally, that's the unfortunate nature of algorithms. Computer routines have no eyes or brains.

As they get feedback they'll continue to tweak, but personally I applaud them for the effort.
It is just a question of opinion.

There are a lot of good sites been hit by Google and I doubt that it is by accident. The Panda update didn't avoid infringements to be indexed, and Penguin didn't avoid spammers or other SEO tricks. Black hat SEO don't seems to be hit either when you read what they post on the black hat forums.

Google is going after the link profiles and you know like me that anyone can manipulate that, Google penguin update or not, perhaps any updates.

I am sure that their algorithms have limits because when I check the relevancy of queries or the SERP, it is just laughable for a multi billions dollars multinational corporation with hundreds of Phd employees.

Honestly I liked Google 3 years ago, now they lost their way because each year they hit many honest small webmasters and small ecommerce owners. They turned their back on the small business people to glorify the brands corporations and other big players. I am sure that one day they will eat the dust for their elitism.

I am not going to find any excuses for Google, they hit us with Panda and Penguin, now it is enough. They can find whatever reason to justified what they are doing, we take the hit each time.

The problem with little site owners like us is that Google will never let us grow, because huge brand corporations can afford (marketing team, SEO team, Adwords team, etc), when we create 100 links, they produce not thousands links on their own site, but all the sites duplicating their product lines by affiliates and for reviews (it is not rare to see the corporation featured in Adwords link above organic search, 4 first links pointed to their corporation site, and 4 other links from their affiliates or reviewers). So 8 +1 first rankings are for them.

On the top of that, they will always have the best spots or exposures because Google descriminate us with brand links, store links, shopping links, etc.

They have declared war? On what? Spammers are still there, crappy sites still there and sites or competitors using dirty SEO tricks are still there.

Oops, little good guys are disappearing...
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