Is Google controlling your traffic it sents to you?

[Brave7]

One observation among others is that Google is controlling the traffic it sents to my site.

I tested something new and it seems obvious that the traffic is highly controlled by Google.

For example I have a certain amount of traffic sent by Google, and I wanted to increase the traffic in a very simple maner. I unlocked from my robot.text the file images which Google crawled and indexed in their search images.

My Google traffic didn't increase at it should be, rather than that Google reduce the amount of direct traffic from the organic search and compensate with more traffic from the image search.

My conclusion is that Google trottle the traffic sent to me with irrational reasons.

My question to you is: Did you test something similar to get to the same conclusion?

[setx_webdev]

Throttling is really nothing new at all. Google and Bing do it, your ISP does it, and your Webhosting company does it.

It all boils down to money. And yes, even Google has to pay for bandwidth.

Throttling has existed for a long time, but it wasn't until recently (crash of 2007) when the economy tanked that throttling came to the forefront.

This is the second time in about 12 years that throttling has been so noticed. The first time was back in 1999 when the deregulation of energy companies happened .. the cost of power went thru the roof, and as a result, bandwidth became more expensive.

In Google's and Bing's case, throttling occurs when a site doesn't receive much traffic already. This is to level out any spikes in the useage of bandwidth it uses as it relates to known slower traffic areas on the net. It saves Google money.

Crawl rates are even affected too .. in that it's always been suggested to let Google determine the crawl rate of a domain .. if a domain becomes popular over time, and starts getting more traffic consitantly, Google adjusts the crawl rate accordingly. Google doesn't want to waste money .. they want to save resources and not have to spend any more money than they feel they need to.

Webhosting companies and wireless service providers do a lot of the same thing. Sure, you signed on for *unlimited .. but the only thing unlimited about the accounts is that throttling slows everything down so that all of the shared resources in the overall solution combined aren't taxed to the point of crashing.

Google has set your alottments already, from the beginning, and since you opened up your images, Google splits your allotment between the two ..

This isn't irrational .. it's business .. business that these companies are unfortunately very good at.

[Brave7]

So basically it is a double whammy, the first one by the algorithms and then the second one by throttling traffic to the website. IMO they are trying to push all ecommerce in their new pay Google Shopping or their Adwords system. Well good luck with that!

Anyway, Google is actually phasing out the free clicks for shopping sites like us, and I guess there is nothing we can do about it.

[setx_webdev]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

So basically it is a double whammy, the first one by the algorithms and then the second one by throttling traffic to the website. IMO they are trying to push all ecommerce in their new pay Google Shopping or their Adwords system. Well good luck with that!

Anyway, Google is actually phasing out the free clicks for shopping sites like us, and I guess there is nothing we can do about it.

They throttle traffic to hopefully increase their adwords account sales IMO

I think Google is in a state of flux, or a transition of some kind these days. Google was once a little guy .. rubbing shoulders with all of the other little guys. Now though, they're a big guy .. they've grown up over there at the Plex, and as a result, they're doing what most mature corporations do .. they step on the little guy.

In the end it's always going to be about the bottom line .. in an effort to please the stockholders, we find Google trying to squeeze just one more dollar out of whatever it is they do .. so much so, that even their definition of evil has changed

Here's a great article on the matter:

Here’s another similarity with newspapers. Most people ignore Google’s ads, just as most people ignore newspaper ads. Still, enough people click on those ads to make Google billions of dollars per year. But imagine how much more Google might earn if it could somehow sell those main listings, the editorial ones?

That’s where paid inclusion comes in. It’s a method that search engines (other than Google) used to use sell those main listings yet still claim that there was an “editorial” component to them. With paid inclusion, companies pay to be considered but aren’t guaranteed to rank well. The algorithm ultimately decides, not payment.

http://marketingland.com/once-deemed...nclusion-13138

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by setx_webdev

They throttle traffic to hopefully increase their adwords account sales IMO

I think Google is in a state of flux, or a transition of some kind these days. Google was once a little guy .. rubbing shoulders with all of the other little guys. Now though, they're a big guy .. they've grown up over there at the Plex, and as a result, they're doing what most mature corporations do .. they step on the little guy.

In the end it's always going to be about the bottom line .. in an effort to please the stockholders, we find Google trying to squeeze just one more dollar out of whatever it is they do .. so much so, that even their definition of evil has changed

Here's a great article on the matter:



http://marketingland.com/once-deemed...nclusion-13138

Very interesting article Setx_webdev, thank you.

Again IMO, if they are going to make pay the ecommerce sites with their system, they better give some damn good qualified traffic which is not the actual case. Google send unqualified traffic, so for me I have the impression that it will be a waste of money.

Bing/Yahoo is a different story, they send less traffic but they are sending some damn good traffic. Actually the ratio of unique visitors/orders is way better than Google. I guess Bing found a good way for now to keep everybody competing at the same level.

I have used Google Adwords in the past, and quiete frankly you cannot have your ROI, so why bother with other Google pay systems if they don't fix the kind of traffic (unqualified traffic) they send to our ecommerce. They want us to make some high quality websites, with great contents and fantastic links but what do you get in return from them? Not much. They don't even affect with their algorithms the spammers who are still there.

Stockholders may play an important role but it is the same thing for the other search engines. Perhaps Google has wasted a lot of money in projects that never worked out for them which can explain why they are after every dime.

I quite watching TV because you cannot watch something interesting without several ads, I quite watching Hulu because of that too, and Google is becoming the same.

I beleive that it is a great opportunity for other kind of search engines.

[~kev~]

I have always thought google throttled traffic based on certain factors, such as the age and reputation of the site.

I can do an exact search for the title of an article, and government sites with no exact result outrank my page. If teh search does not match exactly, why is outranking an exact result?

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by ~kev~

I have always thought google throttled traffic based on certain factors, such as the age and reputation of the site.

I can do an exact search for the title of an article, and government sites with no exact result outrank my page. If teh search does not match exactly, why is outranking an exact result?

This a very good observation Kev. Long tail keywords are now reserved for the authority pages. Today exact match titles do not rank like it should be, and I am like you I don't understand why if we provide great relevant contents.

One more observation is that Google in the past demoted sites selling one product, but not anymore.

Like I have already mentionned, the Google SERP looks like the Russian roulette.

It took me almost 2 months to find out why my site was dumped by the Penguin update nightmare, to put everything in order. Believe me I didn't considered that it was spams but rather marketing. You have to be like a very precise orchestra conductor or a very precise formule one mechanic to do SEO for Google.

Anyway, what a waste of time and hard punishment for so few adjustements, it is unfair.

[~kev~]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

This a very good observation Kev. Long tail keywords are now reserved for the authority pages. Today exact match titles do not rank like it should be, and I am like you I don't understand why if we provide great relevant contents.

I think google is having so many problems filtering out spam, that the good quality smaller sites are being filtered out.

Ranking for my targeted keywords has stayed about the same over the past year.

That staying the same is also a problem. Even though I shoot for over 1,000 word post, closer to 1,500 words is the normal, images, videos,,,, my traffic is "slowly" growing. My last post was 1,351 words + one image.

While on the other hand sites that repost content from other sites (creating duplicate content) seem to be ranking just as good as my site. The articles on those other sites are smaller, and are copy/paste jobs from other sites - the exact stuff google says not to do.

Why do I bust my butt to create content (articles, images, videos), when I could buy articles to create duplicate content?

Why should I write articles when I can install an RSS program to repost articles from larger sites RSS?

Its like google says one thing, then punishes sites that follow the guidelines.

My main blog will be 4 years old in the next 2 months. But it seems that google only sends me a very small piece of traffic.

[Brave7]

Originally Posted by ~kev~

I think google is having so many problems filtering out spam, that the good quality smaller sites are being filtered out.

I believe that small sites are more sensitive to their algorithms.

That staying the same is also a problem. Even though I shoot for over 1,000 word post, closer to 1,500 words is the normal, images, videos,,,, my traffic is "slowly" growing. My last post was 1,351 words + one image.

Yep, same observations from here, we try to provide a great user experience, the best of our ability.

[kateson]

In my view it may control ...!! Google is the largest search engine and traffic of web is also provided by it ..!!