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Very happy with the PR update today!
3 month old site: PR0 --> PR7
1 month old site: PR0 --> PR7
6 month old site: PR5 --> PR6
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Very happy with the PR update today!
3 month old site: PR0 --> PR7
1 month old site: PR0 --> PR7
6 month old site: PR5 --> PR6 |
Firstly, sites do not have PageRank; only individual pages do.
Secondly, since the previous Toolbar PR (TPBR) was on 12 May, a page that is but 1 month old would never have had a TPBR of 0, as the recent TBPR update is the first time that it would have been ranked for TBPR purposes.
Lastly, it stretches credibility to claim that a page might have accrued a sufficiently large number of followed links so as to have attained a Toolbar PR of 7 in 3 months or less.
Would you mind revealing which pages you here speak about?
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Originally Posted by deepsand
Firstly, sites do not have PageRank; only individual pages do.
Secondly, since the previous Toolbar PR (TPBR) was on 12 May, a page that is but 1 month old would never have had a TPBR of 0, as the recent TBPR update is the first time that it would have been ranked for TBPR purposes.
Lastly, it stretches credibility to claim that a page might have accrued a sufficiently large number of followed links so as to have attained a Toolbar PR of 7 in 3 months or less.
Would you mind revealing which pages you here speak about?
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I have to admit I was wondering that myself....
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08-02-2012, 09:44 PM
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Google Updates Toolbar PageRank Again
I don't use the toolbar and to be honest, I haven't checked my PR this year at all. Anyways, just read this blog post so I'll share it in here.
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Google has updated the Google Toolbar PageRank again, for the first time since May. Obviously sites are moving both up and down, but we’re not seeing a ton of complaints so far.
A lot of people are talking about the update on Twitter. Some are more enthusiastic than others. There are a few interesting nuggets out there.
One person thinks freshness is playing a role in higher PageRank. Google has clearly put a great deal of emphasis on freshness in recent months. Fresh content tends to get surfaced much more. Greater visibility means more chances to pick up links.
Here is a sampling of the Twitter conversation...
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Continued at: http://www.webpronews.com/google-upd...-again-2012-08
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08-02-2012, 11:08 PM
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Deepsand,
Sure.. the 3 month old site is webmaster.cm. The index page is a portal type in which i've been posting original content articles on since I started the site just after the last public pr update. That freshness that snakeair was talking about may be what helped me out... the domain had been registered briefly before it seems which could have helped it.
The 1 month old site is linuxnews.co. I have it heavily integrated into linux.org as its only news source... which probably played a role there..
Of course, I may have just confused google and they'll both go down toPR2 or something in the next public pr update  . (although both are moving towards first page serps lately).
Here's an interesting bunch of stats that I grabbed from push2check on the webmaster.cm domain from start up until last week... it shows the gradual increases in various points/fields which might shed some light?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...28zPL_Y9s/edit
btw.. where near philly? I'm in doylestown..
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08-03-2012, 01:17 AM
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Firstly, as for "freshness" of content, such is not an input variable in the PR function, but simply something that might induce others to link to a page.
Next, and before proceeding to the DNs in question, a little background re. Actual PR and Toolbar PR.
Actual PR, value range 0 to 1, is approximately calculated on the fly as new pages and links are discovered, and old pages and links are found to no longer be extant.
Toolbar PR, value range 0 to 10, is updated only after the enter matrix of indexed pages has all Actual PR values re-calculated, and all Actual PR values are normalized so that the grand sum of all equals 1.
As this recalculation is very resource intensive, and it not quickly completed, the update Toolbar PR values actually represent a snapshot of an undisclosed past point in time.
Now, as for linuxnews.co, it is not 1 month old, but dates at least as far back as 28 JUL 2010, as evidenced by a WHOIS search. And, it's been collecting links since 2010, as evidenced by this from Google.
Likewise, webmaster.cm is not 3 months old, but dates back at least as early 13 MAY 2011, as evidenced by WHOIS; additionally, the WaybackMachine shows evidence of it existing as early as 13 OCT 2009. And your spamming of forums around the world, including Asian sites, for this DN began at least as early as 29 Aug 2011, as evidenced by this from Google.
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With over 13,000 posts I thought you'd be smarter than that - it ends up you just talk a lot 
As far as the facts go...
I registered webmaster.cm on May 15th, 2012
I registered linuxnews.co on July 24th, 2012
I registered linuxhostingtalk.com on Mar 20th, 2012
I registered forumdealer.com on Mar 4th, 2012
Replaced an older domain name with the linuxhostingtalk.com one - started building it..
Started forumdealer.com as a separate site - started building it
Changed the domain name of the forumdealer.com site to webmaster.cm in May when I reg'd it
Decided to only use linuxhostingtalk.com to promote webmaster.cm and added the notice/link at the top.. changed my sig on there to also include a link to that and linuxnews.co
Did not tell google webmaster tools that about a change of site address
During this time, I noticed that some tool I ran across showed 2009 as an original creation date for webmaster.cm.. I looked at it on archive.org and saw it was all in asian..
I hadn't looked to see if anyone owned linuxnews.co before I did - but glad they did!
I'd like an apology from you stating that you ASSUMED I "spammed the world including Asian sites" and that you were wrong about that..
You should change your sig to state that while sometimes it sounds like you know what you're talking about, its likely that you're probably spewing false info and trying to call out new users to the forum..
Rob
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08-03-2012, 05:50 AM
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Of course, I may have just confused google and they'll both go down toPR2 or something in the next public pr update . |
smiles... you confused me!
You have the right attitude on this though. Sometimes multiple redirects can cause some unusual PR in the toolbar for a bit until Google sorts it all out.
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I'd like an apology from you stating that you ASSUMED I "spammed the world including Asian sites" and that you were wrong about that..
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Although you weren't responding to me, I would still like to apologize to you.
While my thoughts had not headed the spam direction, I did doubt that a site could go from a PR0 to a PR7 in that short of time without some sort of redirect manipulation or taking over a site with a whole lot of links pointed to it previously. Had you seen those stats from a new member, I have a feeling you would have wondered too.
In any event, I would like to welcome you to the community and hope we can start fresh from here!
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Cricket,
No, you were reacting how I would react as a site owner to a new member posting those stats.. I hadn't posted the links/domains originally out of respect for your "no links before 30 posts" policy.
I'm a bit jealous of your google ranking btw for "webmaster forum".. that's what i'm searchin for and hopefully i'll be knocking on your back door soon lol ... That phrase is a tough one to get good serps on!
Deepsand: I can see how you could have jumped on this since I was a new guy w/ no reputation on here - and since we're close to each other we should meet for lunch and see if we can help out each others IRL businesses. Do you do web-related work?
Thanks guys,
Rob
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08-03-2012, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kprojects
With over 13,000 posts I thought you'd be smarter than that - it ends up you just talk a lot
As far as the facts go...
I registered webmaster.cm on May 15th, 2012
I registered linuxnews.co on July 24th, 2012
I registered linuxhostingtalk.com on Mar 20th, 2012
I registered forumdealer.com on Mar 4th, 2012
Replaced an older domain name with the linuxhostingtalk.com one - started building it..
Started forumdealer.com as a separate site - started building it
Changed the domain name of the forumdealer.com site to webmaster.cm in May when I reg'd it
Decided to only use linuxhostingtalk.com to promote webmaster.cm and added the notice/link at the top.. changed my sig on there to also include a link to that and linuxnews.co
Did not tell google webmaster tools that about a change of site address
During this time, I noticed that some tool I ran across showed 2009 as an original creation date for webmaster.cm.. I looked at it on archive.org and saw it was all in asian..
I hadn't looked to see if anyone owned linuxnews.co before I did - but glad they did!
I'd like an apology from you stating that you ASSUMED I "spammed the world including Asian sites" and that you were wrong about that..
You should change your sig to state that while sometimes it sounds like you know what you're talking about, its likely that you're probably spewing false info and trying to call out new users to the forum..
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You seem to have missed the point that the DNs in question are not so new as you portrayed, that they have in fact been accumulating IBLs for quite some time.
In re. "spamming," that is an objective description of the posting to hundreds of forums the message "Come on over to my site at ...," an activity that continues even now.
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Which forum?
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Google mentioned about the over optimization few month ago, so we stopped our promotions. Then our homepage page rank 3 dropped to 2 and the main inner pages page rank dropped from 2 to 1 in the Aug PageRank update.
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Google mentioned about the over optimization few month ago, so we stopped our promotions. Then our homepage page rank 3 dropped to 2 and the main inner pages page rank dropped from 2 to 1 in the Aug PageRank update.
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Not only was mention of "over optimization" not about any current or imminent change to the SERP algorithm, but rather a musing about possible future changes, such is wholly unrelated to the calculation of PageRank, which is solely dependent on counts of links and pages.
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Both are older than portrayed.
In re. recent link dropping, some examples:
The salient point here is that neither of the two "new" sites gained so much PR in so little time as first presented, but that both have been accumulating links, much through aggressive efforts, and thus PR for quite some time. That you only recently purchased said DNs is immaterial to such facts.
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Any way i am happy with this update because my website PR increase from 3 to 4.
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