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08-12-2006, 09:54 PM
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Violation of Google Terms?
Judge for yourself:
http://www.uzoogle.com/
Now if you say no, try doing a search on it and Google will tell you itself.
Now the mystery here is WHY it got banned, can anyone tell me? |
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08-13-2006, 12:18 AM
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I can't look at this site. It is blocked by ZoneAlarm as a site containing spyware. This is the first time I ever encountred a site blocked for this reason.
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08-13-2006, 01:28 AM
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Really? I don't use ZoneAlarm, I have to install it on this new comp I got a few weeks ago..
I do have a lot of popups blocked in FF though..
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08-14-2006, 01:29 AM
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Why do you think the site is banned, it has not got banned.
Regards/Puneet M.
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08-14-2006, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PuneetJvw
Why do you think the site is banned, it has not got banned.
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it has way too much annoying adverts on it..maybe that's why? |
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08-14-2006, 10:26 AM
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Google probably sees this as an infringement of their trademark. The design and customized page titles look are too strongly reminiscent of Google's logo. I realize that's the point, but the disclaimer saying the site isn't affiliated with Google is below the fold.
Their logo and look are very simple, but good trademarks are simple - Google's appearance is instantly recognizable and they have fought before to protect it from copycats. I think banning is the least they might do.
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08-14-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PuneetJvw
Why do you think the site is banned, it has not got banned.
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When you do a search, it pretty much tells you that it has been banned. When you use the Google search bar, it gives you the error and reasoning.
And I agree with watley. They are lucky they only were banned. |
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08-14-2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by watley
Google probably sees this as an infringement of their trademark. The design and customized page titles look are too strongly reminiscent of Google's logo. I realize that's the point, but the disclaimer saying the site isn't affiliated with Google is below the fold.
Their logo and look are very simple, but good trademarks are simple - Google's appearance is instantly recognizable and they have fought before to protect it from copycats. I think banning is the least they might do.
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Google can't copyright colors of a logo and their layout is WAY too simple to be copyrighted... |
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08-14-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sixty6
Google can't copyright colors of a logo and their layout is WAY too simple to be copyrighted...
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It's not copyrighted, it's trademarked - and I respectfully disagree with your assessment. How complicated is the "golden arches" logo for McDonalds? Google's logo is instantly recognizable. It is marked as a trademark ("tm"). You bet your sweet bippy that logo is protected.
Here's the trademark record at the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
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08-14-2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sixty6
Google can't copyright colors of a logo and their layout is WAY too simple to be copyrighted...
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From the US website
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A trademark protects words, phrases, symbols, or designs identifying the source of the goods or services of one party and distinguishing them from those of others.
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I know when I've trademarked, I could submit the actual logo - design and all.
I'm sure this is where it would fall.
Edited to say: Just read the above reply. That is exactly where I went to do our trademark. Here is the link to the info: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/doc/basic/ |
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08-15-2006, 03:13 PM
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*sigh well that idea is going STRAIGHT down the drain...and I had the perfect domain name too....
oh well, what about their layout?
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08-15-2006, 10:19 PM
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Well the layout is a different story, I think. Logo + search box. Not much to it. I think you could do the same layout, as long as the logo didn't look like Google's.
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08-16-2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by watley
Well the layout is a different story, I think. Logo + search box. Not much to it. I think you could do the same layout, as long as the logo didn't look like Google's.
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What if I change the order of the colors? |
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08-16-2006, 12:07 PM
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Look... I think any design based on a word in a relatively ordinary font with letters of alternating colors, whatever they are, is going to seem Googlish. If you introduced some other element into the logo - a dog, a swoosh, a lightning bolt, a dancing light bulb, a three-eyed fish, a poison dart frog, a CAPS LOCK key, a cup of coffee, a cup of CAPS LOCK keys, a spiral-bound notebook, a glowstick, a slidey pen, a rock, a thermostat, a carburetor, an aggressive smiley, a swooshing dog throwing lightning bolts at a dancing light bulb-wearing three-eyed fish - ANYTHING that makes your design genuinely distinctive, you'd be in safer territory.
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08-16-2006, 03:17 PM
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interesting... when you search "http:// www. uzoogle.com/" from uzoogle, you get the ban message... but then when I use Google to search it, it shows... LOL.
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08-16-2006, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustin07
interesting... when you search "http:// www. uzoogle.com/" from uzoogle, you get the ban message... but then when I use Google to search it, it shows... LOL.
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They show the ban message for any query, but I bet Google doesn't mix their search results with the websites they banned... |
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08-17-2006, 12:36 AM
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It is not banned, it is there in the index and it also has a Pagerank.
Maybe it is in the sandbox ?
Regards/Puneet M.
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08-17-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by watley
Look... I think any design based on a word in a relatively ordinary font with letters of alternating colors, whatever they are, is going to seem Googlish. If you introduced some other element into the logo - a dog, a swoosh, a lightning bolt, a dancing light bulb, a three-eyed fish, a poison dart frog, a CAPS LOCK key, a cup of coffee, a cup of CAPS LOCK keys, a spiral-bound notebook, a glowstick, a slidey pen, a rock, a thermostat, a carburetor, an aggressive smiley, a swooshing dog throwing lightning bolts at a dancing light bulb-wearin | | |
