More proof that Google is evil!!!

Julie · 08-26-2006, 03:01 PM

http://tech.v7n.com/2006/08/26/google-yes-theyre-evil/

Help me out in spreading the word! Please link and blog about this as much as you can.

awall19s brother · 08-26-2006, 03:44 PM

im sorry stand up for what you believe in, even in the long run you lose out. Stand by your principles.......GOOGLEGUY what the frick.....back the dogs off for christ sake....sure you dont want my brother aaron blogging about this.

John Scott · 08-26-2006, 03:49 PM

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Google also wants me to change my domain, and suggested I redirect the current domain to a new one. They had the audacity to suggest such horrible domains as:

* librariansguidetogoogle.com
* thelibrariansguidetogoogle.com
* netlibrariansguidetogoogle.com
* yourlibrariansguidetogoogle.com

LOL! Horrible domains!

Julie · 08-26-2006, 03:53 PM

I want anyone and everyone to blog about it.

LOL, yes John...very horrible domains. And to suggest further domains with the term "google" in it suggests that this isn't really an issue of trademarks...

John Scott · 08-26-2006, 03:53 PM

Somebody should digg that.

Julie · 08-26-2006, 03:55 PM

I tried to, but it says the site has been reported to Digg and it won't let me.

John Scott · 08-26-2006, 04:01 PM

Which site has been reported?

Julie · 08-26-2006, 04:34 PM

I don't know. V7 Tech I guess? I wrote the article and submitted the link, and it said it was reported by a user. So I deleted it, and changed the title, and tried to link to it again on there, and it wouldn't take it.

creativepart · 08-28-2006, 10:58 AM

As you say in your blog... you're going to get the certified letter. Trademark law is nasty stuff and can be super expensive.

Hey, I'm sure you know that they can force you to surrender the domain, but it will cost them $5,000 to $10,000. Offer them the domain for $8,000. You might as well get the money rather than ICAN. Right?

Julie · 08-28-2006, 11:00 AM

ICANN charges that much?

Louis · 08-28-2006, 11:11 AM

Thats sucks Julie.

creativepart · 08-28-2006, 11:15 AM

I could be mistaken, but I've been told a number of times that ICANN charges $5,000 just to "start" the domain claiming process and that it can easily cost $10,000 or more to complete it.

I own a domain name that is a registered trademark of another corporation. I've been advised that they can claim it through ICANN anytime they want. I've also been advised that offering the domain for sale to anyone else is a sure way for them to step in and do that. ICANN has used that kind of action as proof that you created the domain to capitalize monitarily on someone else's trademark.

Luckily, the folks that own the trademark on my domain like the way I run the website. So, I don't get any trouble.

The company is Fender Musical Instrument Corp. They make electric guitars and they have trademarked ALL of their guitar names. They own all of the domain names for those trademarks except one... and that's the one I own.

When you own a domain name with a trademarked name as the key word of the domain you need to work with the trademark owner, or get out of their way. They hold ALL the cards.

I wouldn't fight 'em. I'd partner with them. Or at least let them buy me out. You can cause a stink, but you can't win. So, why not try to profit from it???

Julie · 08-28-2006, 11:17 AM

But what I don't get is they suggested I get a new domain name, and all of their suggestions also included the trademarked term "Google". So if this is a trademark issue, why would they want me to register another domain with the same trademark in it? It doesn't make any sense.

creativepart · 08-28-2006, 11:53 AM

My guess, and it's only a guess is they are trying to reach out to you some and offer you something that stays away from a name that is interferring with a product that is too near and dear to their hearts. Since they want to be the worlds internet library your domain name is right there. And the long non-memerable ones they suggested keep you out of their hair but allow you to keep something close -- just not too close.

Maybe, it will help their case with ICANN if they've offered you acceptible (in their eyes) suggestions but you were uncooperative.

With trademark infringement, they don't have to prove any real infringement or confusion. They can put you into a legal process that is so tremendously costly that you will cry "uncle" within the first round.

They don't have to actually win... because they can't lose.

You've been "nice" changing look and feel. They've asked for disclaimers, maybe you should put one up by the contact us link. If you are cooperative it gives them much less to complain about and less standing in legal processes.

You need a TM or R statement for sure. In the bottom white area. Something like Google is the registered trademark of Google, Inc.

Here's what I have on the bottom of EVERY page of my website:

The words FenderÂ®, TelecasterÂ®, StratocasterÂ® and the associated headstock designs are registered trademarks of the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation. The TDPRI is an independent, member supported forum and is not affiliated with Fender Musical Instruments Corporation.

You probably should put a "R" on the word Google almost everywhere too. Or a TM it looks like they haven't gotten their registration yet. So, it would be a TM. Look at the book on your home page. It's got a good sized TM after the word Google. Just not adding this can get you into trouble lawyer-wise.

I checked the uspto.gov website and looked up Google. They have applied for hundreds of trademarks and many of them are Google[word].com So you are right there.

I see many others have applied for similar type trademarks and it looks like Google is contesting them all as well.

Good luck
Paul Green

webexpertz · 08-28-2006, 02:33 PM

really a serious thread....I don't know how could i help you with this...but i am definitely gonna use in my forum about this..

webexpertz · 08-28-2006, 02:34 PM

I really want to know more about the trademark issues...

Avinash · 08-28-2006, 03:48 PM

hmm.. really serious!

**Rankenstein** · 08-29-2006, 03:55 AM

The point is, why should Google even give a crap? They see a really useful site which is good for them, and their beady eyes narrow?

I guess legally they always have to act 'as if' they are protecting their own interests, even if their interests aren't threatened. Because, according to my sketchy knowledge of the law, if they don't then somewhere down the line they forfeit the right to do anything about it at all. Tell me if I'm wrong, though.