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Old 01-24-2004, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Florida #2 ?

Googles results just went nuts again.. Searching for our Our Product " Rust Bullet" use to result the top 5 sites as my own various sites and 6-10 was the main office site and a few dealers. As of 2 hours ago EVERYONE is gone. All that is showing is link pages with the words " rust bullet" on them. 15+ dealer sites just vanished from the serch results.. ggrrrrrr

NOW what are they up to..
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Old 01-24-2004, 08:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Google's doing something - that's for sure.
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Old 01-24-2004, 08:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah.. and it wont be florida #2.. it would be Georgia.. cuz there naming them like hurricanes.. except w/ names of states so Update Georgia im naming it myself.. i also see that their putting up that other design sometimes.. around 11pm my time for past 2nights.. i`ll take screenies of it next time.
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Old 01-24-2004, 08:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just checked one of my sites and the keyword that put me #1 in the SERPs for the past two months now has me nowhere in the top 500?????

I wonder what they are up to this time?
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I can't belive all 5 sites went *poof* at once. Ranging from PR0-PR5 sites. None are even in the same class B for IP space and all have differant webpages and not simular. Something is up and I wish I knew what.. It's not like " Rust Bullet" is a very "searched" term or very competitive.
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've dropped out, and really low, on a lot of search terms
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It looks like weight has been placed on base PR of domains. That is, the page in the SERP doesn't need to have high PR itself, but it must be a page on a high PR domain. :

Definate move away from the "exact match" algo. Google seems to be reactionary here - devaluing links which use the same or similar anchor text, and by default being left with some irrelevant SERPs.

A search for Seattle Hosting gives you several unrelated listings in the top ten.

www.pair.com/+Seattle+Hosting&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]Pair Networks[/url] is not Seattle based, and doesn't mention "Seattle" anywhere.

www.cityofseattle.net/wto/+Seattle+Hosting&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]This page[/url] discusses the Seattle WTO riots - nothing about hosting at all.

This page discusses the Historical Diving Society of Canada.

Those are all from the top ten.
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm gonna give Google some time to do whatever its doing. Maybe these aren't permanent changes. Hopefully not though
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Look at the AllTheWeb SERP for the same search term -

http://www.alltheweb.com/search?&q=S...&_sb_lang=pref

Every one of those sites listed is relevant. AllTheWeb clearly beating Google.
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't rank that well in alltheweb though

I like allthewebs design better though.

And also, it'll take them a while to beat Google, too many people use it already
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Huh?? Wtf?? How irrelevant are those results??
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WebMasterworld moved the 12 page thread into the supporters forum.

Yeah, like I'm going to pay money to read lots of other webmasters complaining about lost listings.
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my site was third for 'gopeds'... now its no-where to be seen??? What the hell they playing at?
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It looks like weight has been placed on base PR of domains. That is, the page in the SERP doesn't need to have high PR itself, but it must be a page on a high PR domain.
Good point. It's only some(!) of my newer websites (with no PR label yet) that have gone down the drain (read: disappeared). The odd thing is, only some of the newer sites rank lower. You'd think it would have to apply to all of them.

Silly Google.
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I've noticed that in my religion listings I am being beaten by a lot of .edu sites - many of which are now long dead or irrelevant, of course.

Oh - and directories.

The Florida algo changes didn't touch these categories - so my initial suspicion is that a big part of this update involves the wider application of Florida.

Those edu and directories could be indicative therefore of a wider application of an expert system such as Hilltop.
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I hope you don't mind me using your website as an example.

Compare these results for your website:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...nchor%3Agopeds

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...e=off&q=gopeds

- Anchor text lost its weight?
- An educational page at #1, HillTop?
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Old 01-25-2004, 05:23 AM   #18 (permalink)
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yea. thanks for that rob.. it definately shows clearly that anchor text has lost its weight.. is this change likely to be permanent or temporary?
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It looks like the Florida effect is spreading - so I'd note this down as a permanent move.

HOWEVER, also expect the algo to be tweaked down somewhat, to help with relevancy, as Florida was after it was first implmented. Expect Google to wait a few days to take stock of the situation, though.
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