Notice to Everyone!

[eyelfixit]

Hello. I have with the help of users of this forum discovered a new distastefull disapointment.

I used HTMLProtector to "ecrypt " my site due to link highjacked by web thieves. In the process there was some unforseen coding that was inserted into the site which was not intended.

As a result people that have visited BC Save (http://bcsave.com) have had right clicking functions on there computers disabled via a java function. The remedy is to reboot you computer and everything will return to normal.

We were not warned whatsoever about this side effect of the scripts that have been used to provide encryption.

I must thank the users of the IMR forum for having pointed this out to me and not all is lost. Thank fully this was discovered early rather than later.

Here are the sections that have not been affected:

these sections are not affected by the problems (no right clicking):

http://bcsave.com/forum
http://bcsave.com/forum2
http://bcsave.com/cms
http://www.bcsave.com/search/search.pl


I am publicly appoligising to all members and users that have surfed my site and have been affected by this. I in no way ever have intentinaly tried to "break" your computers. This is a result of me perhaps not researching the software enough and/or has been a matter of me not being fully instructed about these side affects.

I am resolving the situation by removing all fo the coding that was instilled on the site whith this so called encryption. I will formally make a complaint with the company and will advaise anyone that would want to use this software to not do so.

This is an expensive mistake for us and we will try and resolve the situation as soon as possible. We will make every effort in our powers to quickly change things around so that you can enjoy your experince with us once again.

Once again, my deepest apologies go out to anyone that has been affected and this will never happen again. That's a promise from me to you.

Thank you for your time in advance.

P.S.: sorry for the speeling but as you can imagine I'm a little shaken up by this and am in a rush to fix it. More on this later.

Rejean Houle
Webmaster
BC Save
http://bcsave.com

[samer]

good luck for fixin it

[Pretend]

Hm...good thing that I never went to it.

That sounds like it would suck real, real bad. I'd be bitchin' at the company that made it so much if I were you, I'd get my damn money back.

[eyelfixit]

I ran soem test's and it seems that this only affects IE browsers above 5.5.

Once again sorry for the inconvenience.

F.Y.I.: Still working on it and changes should take affect tonight.

[Bubo]

Bravo eyelfixit! Have you had any luck contacting the company that made the software?

[eyelfixit]

I emailed them politely and asked them what all of this was about. The flatly denied that it came from there codfing. So I ran some test (still am) and my prelimenary findings proove my oppinion. I have tried every single function of that program by itself and it looks like if I don't use the anti rght click it works o.k.

I have informed them of this and am still debating wether I should use the program all together. See my dilema is that with out any protection I will definatly loose the very little incomae I make from my affilaites.

I just got back from a meeting with my staff and we are still undecided as to what excatly we will do on a future basis.

As for now though until we run lot's more tests the site will be zstraight HTML so as to avoid this all together.

As for the company that create HTML Protector, I feel like snapping and terrorizing there b^&*( asses btu I have to keep it cool until I can proove my findings and I may have to involve our lawyer.

[Thanol]

Can't you just use an automatic redirect page like something that formats links like go.php?id=1?

[Bubo]

eyelfixit, I'm about to head out for the weekend, but when I get back I'll take a look at your website, and also do some searches for parasite-ware. We'll see if we can help you protect your income stream.

[eyelfixit]

O.k. I took all the right click crap out.

The body is still encrypted and I have tested it . The right click and copy and paste code have been removed so the issue should be somewhat o.k. for now. Only problem now is being able to protect my links yet be able to have them spidered.

I thank you all for your help and input on this matter. I have been in all reality loosing money in the past year with this site and I have tried everything that I now how. Granted that may not be much compared to you guy's but hey, that's why I'm here. To hopefully soak in some wiseness.

Here is a link to a anti-parasiteware and affiliate website which I participate in and am getting a little input from:

http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=548608979

There is a bit of info there but I am battling an uphill battle here because I have been targeted by individuals which code there own scripts to steal my commissions.

[PhilC]

Ok. You've stopped disabling people's the copy/paste ability - well done! But you have a big problem.

You have a 'robots index' meta tag but, apart from the meta tags, there's nothing for them to index. Also, there are no links for them to follow around the site. So you won't get the site's pages spidered unless each one of them is linked to from another website.

Even if you got each page linked to from another website, the pages would do very poorly in Google because all of those inbound links are "dangling". I.e. they link to a page that has no outbound links and, therefore, the inbound links are dropped during most of the PageRank calculations, which means they will end up with very little PageRank. Right now the toolbar PR values must be based on pre-encrypted page versions.

I said it in another thread, and I still say that your best bet is to use your own javascript to hide the affiliate links and leave the other links as they were. Otherwise your site will be dead to the search engines.

[eyelfixit]

"I said it in another thread, and I still say that your best bet is to use your own javascript to hide the affiliate links and leave the other links as they were. Otherwise your site will be dead to the search engines."

Can you point me to a good place that will show me how to do this?

As for search engine stuff I will start another thread with info from a proposal that I got to take care of the traffic.

[PhilC]

[code:1:add26a6d8f]
<head>
<script language="javascript"><!--
function go(url){
self.location=url
}
//-->
</script>
...other head section stuff (Title, Description,etc.)...
</head>
<body>
<a href="javascript:go('pagename.html')">click here</a>
</body>
[/code:1:add26a6d8f]
That's a very simple javascript method. You could encode the javascript in the head and the anchor tag in the same way that the pages are encoded (not encrypted) now. But spiders don't tend to be able to parse javascript so there's no real need to encode it.

[eyelfixit]

it's not that simple. I need a script that will mask my i.d's, If that is not done than one can just check the source and get my i.d., switch it for his and have users buy that way and/or can place a purchase himself and getting a discount and the comissions.

[PhilC]

Yes it is that simple. As I said above, encode the important links and the javascript in exactly the same way as you now have whole pages encoded. Just don't encode the whole page.

The benefit of having a javascript function instead of just an encoded link is that the sort of program that would be able to substitute your affiliate ID for theirs could easily read encoded pages and links but not javascript. To read what javascript is doing would require a large javascript interpreter in the program, and that's something the thieving programs are not going to have in a hurry.

There's nothing you can do to prevent eyes from seeing your affiliate links - encoding entire pages won't stop anyone who's keen. Remember that what you have now is not encryption - it's standard encoding that anyone can convert into plain language. It's true that it's harder for a person to find links in an encoded page than it is to find them when only the links are encoded, but I don't think it's eyes that are the problem. As I said, eyes can see the links in plain language in the browser's address bar after clicking on them.

The bottom line is, you can't prevent a program from reading the source code however much of the page is encoded. Browsers decode it, and so can any other program. But if you're going to encode anything, encode the links and not the page. Otherwise the site can't get anywhere in the engines.

[Coffeee™]

hehe it's funny that Sara hasn't replied yet

-Rabid Bird

[Jazzee]

Reply :-P

[Coffeee™]

Yay, my favourite girl, .... woman.... has replied to this topic that pissed her off so much

[Jazzee]

LOL!

[eyelfixit]

Originally Posted by PhilC

Yes it is that simple. As I said above, encode the important links and the javascript in exactly the same way as you now have whole pages encoded. Just don't encode the whole page.

The benefit of having a javascript function instead of just an encoded link is that the sort of program that would be able to substitute your affiliate ID for theirs could easily read encoded pages and links but not javascript. To read what javascript is doing would require a large javascript interpreter in the program, and that's something the thieving programs are not going to have in a hurry.

There's nothing you can do to prevent eyes from seeing your affiliate links - encoding entire pages won't stop anyone who's keen. Remember that what you have now is not encryption - it's standard encoding that anyone can convert into plain language. It's true that it's harder for a person to find links in an encoded page than it is to find them when only the links are encoded, but I don't think it's eyes that are the problem. As I said, eyes can see the links in plain language in the browser's address bar after clicking on them.

The bottom line is, you can't prevent a program from reading the source code however much of the page is encoded. Browsers decode it, and so can any other program. But if you're going to encode anything, encode the links and not the page. Otherwise the site can't get anywhere in the engines.

o.k., i'l try that. Thank you for the time that you have put in to help me.

The new changes will take affect today. I'm sorta reluctant but I guess you know better than me.

Once again thank you for helping after what happened.

And Sara, sorry once again.

[Jazzee]

NP. I'm cool LOL